On Question, That ("now") stand Part of the Motion ?-Contents 97; Not-Contents 192: Majority 95.

Saint Albans, D.
Somerset, D.
Sutherland, D.

Ailesbury, M.
Lansdowne, M.
Normanby, M.

from the path which she believes the Constitution prescribes. The noble Earl, on a former occasion, pledged the majority of this House-greatly increased by the chivalrous, though, I think, mistaken, feelings which have animated the Episcopal Bench, Cleveland, D. and not inconsiderably increased by the Devonshire, D. numerous creations of the last two years-Leeds, D. to reject this measure before it had seen the light, and before it was known by what majorities in the other House it would come recommended to your Lordships. I believe the effect of that threat was to give strength and spirit, if it did not, as some positively assert, increase the numbers of the majority in the other House; and I have always felt that the mention of that threat might have the same effect upon the country. If there was no qualification, I feared an exciting and dangerous effect; but the words which I have already quoted from the noble Earl's speech will, I hope, induce the people to see that all that is required is for the constituencies to enable the next Parliament to give a very decided opinion in order to destroy opposition in this House, and that it will offer no stolid obstacle to

their wishes. With this feeling I trust they will calmly and dispassionately-for I like the words, though they grate upon the noble Marquess's ears - that they will calmly and dispassionately examine the arguments to which I believe the debate in your Lordships' House has made such valuable additions. I have little doubt of the result. There will be great difficulty in settling some of the details for the disestablishment of the Irish Church; much time will be taken to make the preliminary arrangements; but in a very few months the battle of justice and religious equality against an ascendancy which is politically wrong, and is injurious to the Protestant religion will be fought and will be won. THE ARCHBISHOP OF ARMAGH In explanation, I beg to say that there is a wide difference between the application of the words which fell from me the other evening, and of those which the noble Earl has referred to. The words "The Irish are aliens in blood, language, and reli. gion," were taken up as an offence to the Irish nation. The words I used were used in a sense very different. They were not intended to be offensive. What I said was that the 700,000 Irish Churchmen were not aliens, but were of the same blood as yourselves, and I said so because I wanted to show our claim to your consideration and to justice.

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Townshend, M.

Abingdon, E.
Airlie, E.
Camperdown, E.
Carnarvon, E.
Cottenham, E.
Clarendon, E.
Cowper, E.
Craven, E.
De Grey, E.
Denbigh, E.
Ducie, E.
Essex, E.
Fitzwilliam, E.
Fortescue, E.
Granville, E.
Kimberley, E.
Minto, E.
Morley, E.
Portsmouth, E.
Russell, E.

Saint Germans, E.
Sommers, E.
Spencer, E.

CONTENTS.

De Mauley, L.
De Tabley, L.
Ebury, L.
Fitzhardinge, L.
Foley, L. [Teller.]
Foxford, L. (E. Lime-

rick.)

Suffolk and Berkshire, E. Petre, L.
Zetland, E.

Falmouth, V.
Halifax, V.

Sydney, V.

Abercromby, L.
Belper, L.

Boyle, L. (E. Cork and
Orrery.)
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Calthorpe, L.
Camoys, L.
Carrington, L.
Chesham, L.
Churchill, L.
Clandeboye, L. (L. Duf-
ferin and Claneboye.)
Clifford of Chudleigh, L.
Cranworth, L.
Dacre, L.

Poltimore, L.

Ponsonby, L. (E. Bess

borough.) [Teller.]

Rollo, L.

Romilly, L.

Seaton, L.

Sefton, L. (E. Sefton)
Seymour, L. (E. St.
Maur.)
Somerhill L. (M. Clan-
ricarde.)
Stafford, L.

Stanley of Alderley, L.
Stratheden, L.
Sudeley, L.
Sundridge, L (D.Argyll)
Taunton, L.
Truro, L.
Vaux of Harrowden, L.

Vivian, L.
Westbury, L.

NOT-CONTENTS.

Canterbury, Archp.
Cairns, L. (L. Chancel-
lor.)
York, Archbp.
Armagh, Archbp.

Beaufort, D.

Buckingham and Chan-
dos, D.

Manchester, D.
Marlborough, D.
Northumberland, D.

Richmond, D.

Rutland, D.

[Third Night.

Clements, L. (E. Lei- LODGERS PROPERTY PROTECTION BILL [H.L.]

MR. SCLATER-BOOTH, in reply, stated that the Commission appointed to inquire into the alleged grievances of the Clerks in the Customs had concluded a portion of their inquiry, and he hoped that the Report would be in the hands of the Treasury before the close of the Session.

IRELAND-RECORDS.-QUESTION.

for rendering available to the Irish public the present Session, any and what steps Records relating to Ireland, which are prethe numerous and very important Public served at the Record Office, London, and

from the Officers' pay, but a smaller allowance, known as the Field allowance, had been stopped, and that was probably the origin of the hon. Member's Question. The Colonial allowance of 1s. 6d. per day at the Cape was stopped under a misapprehension, but it was now to be re-commenced. With respect to the admissions into hospital, he regretted to say that he believed the numbers given in the Question MR. O'BEIRNE said, he also wished to to be substantially correct. He should be very unwilling to produce the Correspond-ther the Government intend taking, during ask the Secretary to the Treasury, Wheence referred to in the latter part of the Question, and he hoped the hon. Member would not press for it. In answer to various Questions that had been put, he had always stated the exact position of affairs with respect to this Regiment at the Mauto which the attention of the Government ritius, and, amongst other things, that in was directed four years since by the Chief consequence of the circumstances under which the Regiment landed, the Com- Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant? mander-in-Chief had sent out an Order for that he was not aware what were the imMR. SCLATER-BOOTH said, in reply, a Report of the circumstances to be forwarded. That Report had been received tion of the hou. Member referred. He was portant Public Records to which the Quesand submitted to him (Sir John Pakington), informed that there were no Records rebut he was reluctantly obliged to concur lating to Ireland in the Record Office, but in the opinion of his Royal Highness, that there were entries in the Rolls of Chancery that Report was not satisfactory. In con- and other Courts, which it had been prosequence of that decision, the Commanderposed to transcribe, in order to their being in-Chief had communicated to the General deposited in the Dublin Office. This was commanding at Mauritius, his opinion on the subject. Justice had been done, and be postponed until the other questions remerely a question of expense, and might he thought no good effect would be pro-lative to the Irish Records, were decided duced by reviving the subject. There was by the Master of the Rolls. no intention of sending the Regiment to India, nor did he believe that such an intention had ever existed.

CLERKS IN THE CUSTOMS DEPART

MENT-QUESTION.

MR. O'BEIRNE said, he wished to ask the Secretary to the Treasury, Whether the Commission appointed to inquire into the grievances complained of by the Clerks in the various Departments of the Customs have concluded their labours; and, whether the result of the comparison which they have instituted between the duties performed by the Clerks in the Departments of Account in the Customs and Inland Revenue Departments respectively has been such as to prove that the duties performed by the Clerks in the former are as arduous and important as those performed by the Clerks in the latter Department; and, if so, whether it is proposed to place the Clerks in the several Offices of Account in the Customs on the same footing as to salary as

the Clerks in the Inland Revenue?

THE LEOMINSTER MAGISTRATES.

QUESTION.

MR. P. A. TAYLOR said, he would beg to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, Whether his attention has been called to a report stating that the Leominster Magistrates have recently fined some boys 1s. and costs, or in default seven days' imprisonment, for playing cricket on Sunday; and, whether he considers such conviction in accordance with the Law?

MR. GATHORNE HARDY, in reply, said, that the clerk to the justices at Leominster had written to him to explain that there had been no conviction before them of boys for playing at cricket on Sundays. A great number of boys had been in the habit of playing at cricket in a field of growing grass, and some were brought before the magistrates and fined Is. and costs, which fines were immediately paid. The offence had nothing to do with its being Sunday, for they would have been equally summoned for playing in this field

on any other day. With regard to such a conviction being contrary to law, the hon. Member would find in the 71st volume of Hansard, third series, an opinion given by Sir Frederick Pollock on this subject.

INDIA-THE MUTINY MEDAL.

QUESTION.

MR. ADAM said, he would beg to ask the Secretary of State for India, When the Correspondence, moved for on the 22nd March 1867, relative to the grant of the Medal to Troops and Police engaged in suppressing the Mutiny and Rebellion in the Bombay Presidency during the years. 1857, 1858, 1859, &c. will be laid upon the Table; and, whether, taking into consideration the services performed by the Troops and Police so engaged, it is the intention of Her Majesty's Government to order the Grant of the Medal to them?

SIR STAFFORD NORTHCOTE, in reply, said, the Papers alluded to by the

hon. Gentleman had been received from

make experiments. He heard that a Mr. Lottman, who was employed by the Dutch to watch the proceedings, did make private experiments and had published the results; but he understood that these were performed and published entirely on his own responsibility and not on that of the Government of Holland. A blue book would shortly be issued by the Foreign Office, which would afford all the information that could be given in regard to the experiments at Cologne.

ARMY-QUEEN'S REGULATIONS, 1868.

QUESTION.

MR. O'REILLY said, he would beg to ask the Secretary of State for War, Whether paragraph 165, of the Queen's Regulations, 1868, "the Commander-inChief will in all cases select the senior to the higher grade," will in all cases officer who may have qualified for promotion. be complied with?

SIR JOHN PAKINGTON said, in

reply, that if the hon. and gallant Member would refer to the paragraph in question, he would find it applied only to the cases of the promotion of officers who had neglected to pass the necessary examination. He had no reason to doubt that the Commander-in-Chief would carry out the regulation.

Bombay. They formed three very large volumes, which it would be impossible to produce to the House in full; but Mr. Lushington, the late Commissioner of Po lice at Bombay, had now the volumes in his possession, and had undertaken to mark the despatches which it would be desirable to produce. He might inform the hon. Gentleman that he had written a despatch by the last mail to India, with respect to the question of extending the grant of the Indian Mutiny Medal. He had resolved MR. O'REILLY said, he would beg also that it should be given to all persons who to ask the Secretary of State for India, had performed service against the mutineers in reference to his statement that a room or rebels, including amongst the latter all had been provided in quarters in India to who had made common cause with them. be used by the Protestant soldiers for readThe word persons would include Police,ing and prayer, but that the Order in quesand he hoped the settlement of the question would be satisfactory.

REFINING OF SUGAR AT COLOGNE.

QUESTION.

MR. CRAWFORD said, he wished to ask the Vice President of the Board of Trade, Whether he will lay upon the Table a statement of the particulars and results of the experiments in the Refining of Sugar conducted at Cologne previous to the Convention of November 1864, the same having been already published by authority in Holland?

MR. STEPHEN CAVE said, in reply, that no publication of the details of these experiments had been sanctioned by the Commission; nor was anyone authorized by them to

RELIGIOUS SERVICES IN THE INDIAN
ARMY.-QUESTION.

tion did not apply to Catholic soldiers as they had not asked for anything of the kind and were not likely to do so, Whether he can state what applications had been made on the subject by Protestant soldiers; and, whether there will be any objection on the part of the Military authorities on the ground of discipline or the regulations of the service to Catholic soldiers in Her Majesty's service signing petitions or making other written application asking for similar privileges?

SIR STAFFORD NORTHCOTE said, in reply, that he thought the most satisfactory way of dealing with the Question of the hon. Gentleman would be to forward a copy of it to the Governor General, and call his attention to the matter.