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the Peace, it will get up a long debate, which will throw all these other questions aside. Then, when we are on the very eve of adjournment, This question ought to be set led; but the gentleman's matter about Justicre of the Peace, can be as well postponed as not, until we meet again. There was no neressity for urging this mater on the Convention now. We have all the light before us, which we desired, to settle this question, which has been brought 10 the consideration of the committee, by the gen. tleman from Adairs. If we are to meet in the spring, then a report from this commiitee will be of no sort of consequence, hecause we will meer in this place, if we meet in April next. If we refuse to meet in the spring, and determine 10 meet again in October, then it would be proper enough to postpone the subject, for the pui pose of having a report from the committer on this subject. If we refuse to meet in the spring, we onght to take into consideration this proposal of th. Com nissioners of Danphin county, and that of the anthorities of Philadelphia city, and determine whether we were tineet again in this Hall, orin Philadelphia, or the Courthouse, or Church. Hh): , trecefvri, thit the silbject would not he postponed, until the proposition of the gentleman from Adams, was considered and disposed of.
Mr. Scott said, the committee which had made this report, were ap. pointed some four or five days ago, and within twenty-fonr hours after their appointment, a motion was inade to discharge them from the fure ther consideration of the subject sulimited to them. A majority reiused to discharge the commitee. À motion was then made to postpone the further consideration of the subject, and the committee found it necessary to make their report this morning, or consider their duties as at an end. Then, under this state of the case, it was impossible that they should be able to consider the proposals from the authority of Philadelphia and Har. risburg, which had been only laid on the lible to-day. He considered that they had all the lights before them, necessary to a correct understanding of the matter, and he hoped no postponeineut would take place. We can as well determine now whai course we will take, in relation to this matter, as at any other time. The alternative, in his opinion, lay between re-assembling in Harrisburg, in the spring of the year, or assembling in the fall of the year, at some other place. He was indifferent as to which course the majority might take. li the majority evince a disposition to meet here in the spring of the coming year, he would not oppose it; for he did not know, upon the whole, but That it might be the most advisable course. He wonld first vote for re-assembling here in the spring of the year, and if that fail, he would vole for ineeting in the fall, at Philadel.
Mr. KERR haped the motion to postpone would not prevail. The gentleman from Susquehann i has offered, as a reason why we ought 10 pistpone this question, that we ought to proceed to the consideration of the sirih article of the Constitution, in rilain to Justices of the Peace.Now, it will be recollected that that question was once decided by the Convention, and hy a move made by the gentleman froin Sisquehanna himself, we have been thrown into confusion again, and all that was done on this su'ject, aft”r a protracted debate, has been indone; therefore it pee'ned to him, that the question ought to be left lie as it is, until we meet again. We will then coma back better prepared to decide this point, than
we are at this time. He was aware that some gentlemen were very anxious to show their love of the people, and they desire that this question should be decided out of mere love to the people, and to have the oppor. tunity of showing their attachment to them. It was urgeil, as a reason why we should postpone this question, that the committee have nnt considered the propositions of the authorities of Hurrisburg and Philadelphia. This he considere no objection, berause these propositio:s are before the Convention, and when we come to take the maiter into consideration, we can consider them. an:l make up our minds accordingly. He hoped that the motion to postpone would not be agreed to.
Mr. Bell hoped that the Convention would not agree to postpone the subject, as he considered that we had all the information before us, necessary to co:ne io a correct understanding of the case.
Mr. STERIGERE then withdrew his motion to postpone.
Mr. Dunlop intended to vote for ihsi amendment, and begged the attention of tie Convention, for a few ininutes, while he gave the reasons why he should give his vote. In the first place, if we meet again in October, at this place, it is most probable that our labors will not be concluded when the Legislature ineets, and then it will be necessary for us to find some other Hall to hold our sessions in, because it is not to be expected that the Legislature will give us up this one, and go out in search of one themselves. This will be attended with great inconvenience. If we meet in the Church, we will be cramped up in little narrow seats without desks : and he presumed every gentleman would have to carry a shingle along to write upon. It was not to be expected that they will move the pews, and we will be shut up in narrow seais, with strait backs, which will be very uncomfortable to gentlemen who have been accustomed to sit here in fine armned chairs. He would put it to gentlemen how thy would like to sit up there as straight as an old maid, for.'noon and afternoon, in these narrow church pews. For himself, he would rather be confined in the stocks, provided lie could lie down. If we are to go there, the place woull be fixed up by the authorities, and as it would be but a temporary matter, it was not to be expected that we could have good desks, and chairs, and such conveniences as we have in this Hall now. It would be asking too much, lo expect this. He did not believe that the borough of Harrisburg would go to any great expense in fitting up this Church for our accommodation. If we go to the couri house, it will be nearly as bad. It could not be put in any fit condition for our reception, unless the while inside was taken out, and then it would be a cramped up, and confined piaco, in which we would not have room to turn roun.l. . In Phili delphia we might be well accommodated, and have access to all the books wc migrı wish to see. We would also have a gol au lie:cthore, which would make us more careful as to what we sail, than we pererally are.. But thpeuple hila jealousy, though he believe l a'r unreasonable one, of the influence of the city : and he wis cynki leat they wouid not assent to our sit:ing there. In fact, he saw no alternative, but to aljourn over to April, and re-assemile 112.8. We could t'ien go on in a frvorable season of the year, and despatch our business. If we are forced to meet this tall, and have to meet in Philadelphia, it may be the means of bringing
the Convention into disrepute, as no one could shut his eyes to the fact that a great many of the people, of the country, were opposed to having bodies of this kind assemble there. There was no necessity for us to he in haste with our deliberations, as they cannot be sulmited to the people at the fall elections, and no harm can be done by delaying the completion of our business; and there may be much good result from it. We have heard, from high authority, that a great change is taking place in the country, in relation to the subject of reform. The people are becoming more and more conservative. There was a great change tıking place among the radicals, and agitators, themselves. In the county of Philadelphia, where all the reforins have been concocted, a great reaction hal taken place. The people, at large, changed their opinions, as well as individuals. The public sentiment of the country was but little more stable, than were the sentiments of in.lividuals. It was but the other diy, that we were to have nothing in the country but hard money: and the whole cry was, that we were to have an exclusively metallic currenry; but now he had understood that the course of certain politicians had been changed, and we have it from the Albany Regency, that they are not in favor of an exclusivily metallic currency, and that they are willing to tolerate banking institutions.
Mr. Purviance called the gentleman from Franklin to order. He considered the range of the gentleman too wide, and entirely irrelevant to the question.
Mr. Dunlop: Perhaps the range was too wiile for the gentleman's understandling, but other gent'emen will comprehend th? argument. To show how frequent and suiden were the changes of sentiment a'd principle in individua's, he wished to reser to a few facts. There were now gentleinen on this floor, who had vote: for a United States Bank, and held that it was a Constitutional and useful institutim, who at the very sight of it now turned pale. There were gentlemen here who, a feir years ago considere: that institution a necessary official agent of the Government, and now they receive it as a deadly monster, cor pretend to receive it as such, an.I perhaps it is only preten :e. We have heard from all quarters of the country that great changes are taking place; and many genilemen are be. coming alarmed in relation to the subje:t of Constitutional reform. Many of the radicals are becoming alarmed in corse prence of the informat on which has been received from thre county of Philadelphia. He had heard sone radicals say they would like to g.) home and consult their constituents in relation to some of the matter of reform here. Sone of them would be glad to save the independence of the Judiciary. He considered that it was only necessary to refer the Convention to these constant changes in the public mind, tv satisfy then that it would be right to give pa'lic opinion time to fix itse! on something which it would stand 10. There was a tiine when the ralicals were likely to sweep from the face of the Co:nmonwealth our most useful institutions; but we have seen these agitators, one after another, fall before the blast of popular inilignation.When we have seen these things take place within the last feir days, can any one believe that there are not changes tiking place in public opinion. The public min.) was never stearly. It was always agitated like the shifting sands of the desert of Arabia. He wished to let the people know how little we have done for the time and the money we have spent. He wished to let
the people know that we were spending a thousand dollars a day; and to tell the sober minded farmers that this resorin of the Constitution was about to cost them a quarter of a million of dollars. He wished to let the reforn:ers of Juniata county know that iheir reforms would cost the people of the State, two hundred and fifiy thousand dollars It had been said that the people cared nothing about these expenses, and that ihey were satisfied with our work, and anxious that we should go on and make changes. But he knew belier than this, as there was nothing which alıracts public attention quicker, than this matter of expenses ; and he was satisfied that when these enormous espenses were laid before them, :hey would work radical changes in the public sentiment of this Commonwealth. Public opinion had been regulated by the small township politicians, and little lying printers, and through them the representatives of the people had been e'ecies. Public opinion had been manufactured by the bar-room and grog-shop politicians, who use all their efforts to carry men into the Legislature to carry out their views , and unfortunately for the country, they have been lov successful. Brit the people of the country are rising in their indignation against them, and they will be put down. We are now at the flow of this tide of public opinion, and we shall be at its ebb when we meet again. He would give public opinion time, and it will work itself right.
Mr. Cummin rose for the purpose of replying to some of the remarks of the genileman from Franklin, (Mr. Dunlop). Mr. C. held iu his hand the bill of expenses of the Convention, which the gentleman had read for the purpose of alarming the people. The gendeman had asserted that there had been a waste of time of this Convention by making long speeches, to ihr amouut of some thousands, and yet this gentleman had made perhaps as many speeches as any other on this floor. For this inconsisiency, Mr. C. had rebuked the gentleman, and it seemed to have some effect for a time. The gentleman however, had broken out again, without reserve, in support of an amendment of his friend from Adanis, (Mr. SteVENS) but what that amendinent was, lie knew not, as that some gentlemen has bewildered us so with amendments, that there was no telling what it
He supposed, however, it was the same amendment which the genuleman from Adams had offered six times-fire times by himself, and once by his friend, without either addition or diminution. It was impossible for him to follow the gentleman in all his meanderinys, his logic, sophistry, and other hard words, which being no scholar, he could not under. stard. The gentleman has given us a history and exposition of the United States Bank, as though the amendment of the gentleman from Adams, was a bill to re-charter that bank. What business has that gentleman 10 occupy the attention of this Convention at this time, with the subject of the United States Bank? There is no bill before us to re-charter that listitution, nor have we any article before us respecting the bank. Then why did he waste so much iime on a subject not before ihe Convention? This is the orator who sums up the expenses of the Convention, on account of long speeches; yet there is no gentleman in the Convention who wastes more of i18 time ihan this same logical gentleman. The gentleman appeared to be dissatisfied wiih every thing-nothing suited him. He was neither pleased with the city nor ihe country, the church nor the court house. He was opposed to going to Philadelphia, for sear of the wrath of the peo
ple, and he would not sit in the German Church, as it was only fit for children or old maids-- the backs of the seats were sırait up, and you were confined as if you were in the stocks. The gentle man must at least hare been 10 church once, or otherwise he could not describe so minutely the punishment which penple endure there. Again, he condemins the court house, and says it is an unfit place to set in. Now, it would be recollected by many genilemen here, that ihe Legislature sat in the court house for many years, and they found it a very commodious house. Mr. C. had been there himself, anil he thought himself as goo:l a man as the gentleman from Franklin. But in the gentleman's other denunciation, he has seen fit to use indecorous and unbecoming language towards the people of this Commonwealth, 10 use such language towards them as was unlecoming a gentleman on this floor.
The Chair c.lled Mr. C. to order. It was not in order to indulge in personal reinarks.
Mr. CUMMIx said he would bow to the admonition of the Chair. De came here with a disposition 10 give no offence to any member of the Convention ; yet there was abusive language thrown out frequenily by the gen leman from Franklin, which it was necessary to repel. It was unbecoming the dignity of this honorable Convention, that such reproaet.es should be thrown upon niemhers of this body, and their constituenis, as we have heard, on more occasions than one, thrown upon them by the gentleman from I ranklin.
Mr. BROWN, of Philadelphia, replied to the assertion of the gentleman from Franklin, (Mr. DUNLOP), that great changes had taken place in the county of Philadelphia on the suject of reform, denying it in any and every sense in which it was madle. The people of the county were, by an overwhelming majority, in favor of amending the Constitution; and, although they might have cloubted, and may still doubt, whether such
amendinents as they desire will he made by what has been called a ronservative Convention, yet, when the mendmenis he (Mr. B.) had no doubt would be maile, were presented to their consideration, they would nieet their full approbation. But the gentleman from Franklin said, ihat they were changing on the subject of limiling ihe tenue of the Judiciary. Now, Mr. B. would say, that not the least indication of any such change had been manifested; on the contrary, the people of that county h:d too strong an eviderce of thie independence and integrity of a Judiciary of limited tenure in their District Couri, not to be in favor of limiting all Judges. So far from the people of Philadelphia county changing against reform, he had letters, which were at the service of any gentlen.an, frem some of the first men in the city of Philadelphia, belonging to the conservative party, approving of the reform proposed. Mr. B. then replied to Mr. Dunlop on the subject of the expenses of the Convention. He supposed that that gentleman did not mean this part of his remarks for the Convention, but for the people of Cumberland, Franklin and Adams, 10 whom he had told the Convention a few days before, he was speaking. He trusted that u hen that gentleman went before those people, he would tell them how much of that expense he had (Mr. D.) voted for. But, (said Mr. B.) who is it that is 10 be charged with the expenses of the Convention ! Certainly not the radicals. The conservatives had told them before we assembled, that they had a majority. Their first act proved that they had