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a majority. The election of a President, certainly not a radical, placed the whole action of the Convention in the hands of ihe conservatives. What. ever was therefore of good or evil, was attributable to the conservatives. It all belonged to the conservatives. The radicals had no responsibility. He did not wish to attribute blame to any one, not even to the conservatives, on this subject. He did not believe the expenses of th Convention were worth the ialk they had occasioned. There expenses were all predicaled upon, and regulated by those of the Legislature; and he did not believe the people of Pennsylvania would regard the expense in improving their form of Government, in carrying on the great work of perfecting their free institutions, and making them conformable to the light and spirit of the age; and Mr. B. said he knew the gentleman from Franklin (Mr. DunLOP), was too high-minded and honorable a man to appeal to the mere dollar-and-cent passion of the people of Cumberland, Franklin, and Adams, when he brought the subjeci of reform before them. He will tell them all the Convention have done, and all he believes, in his heart, they will do. He will show them his votes on this subject, and will appeal to their high and lofty patriotism in favor of resorni. He will tell them that all the charges of jacobinism and agrarianism, which were made against us poor radicals, were false and unfounded ; and will ask thein to judge of the changes we make, without prejudice or passion, looking only at what is made, and forgetting who has made them, or what they may have cost. It we have acted wiong, he will tell the people who have so acted; but he will not ask il e people to punish themselves for our fault, by rejecting good and wholesome refurm. He will tell them that the Convention, conservative as it is, can do no harm, and may and will do much gooil. It will enlarge and liberalize the institutions of the State. On the subject of adjourning until April, (Mr. B.) said. the gentleman from Franklin says reform is at the food now, and it will soon be at the ebb. Wlien, (said Mr. B.), will be the greatesi ebb, if not after the October election? Those opposed to all reform will then have had an opportunity to appeal 10 the people, and if they want no reform, that will be ihe time to determine; and Mr. B. said he, for one, was willing to meet the people in this Hall now, or in October ; but he hoped it would not be deemed necessary to put it off longer than the period already fixed.
Mr. Fleming, of Lycoming, said that if we ar journed over for three months, it was a longer time ihan our constituents would approve ; but, to add six months more to the recess, was alivgeiher out of the question. If we met here next spring, as soon as the warm weather commenced, we should meet the same objectirns, on the score of the unhealthiness of ihe place and se son, that we have met at ihis session. Another adjourn. ment would then be necessary to the next fall or spring, orcasioning a degree of delay and expense which the public would never toleraie. In the first place, it was his opinion that we ought net 10 'have adjourned at all. This season of the year was the most pleasant for such an assembly that could be chosen ; but, after adjourning for three months, without any substantial reason, he wished to know what resson could be given for defering the whole business of the Convention for a year. In what situation would it place us with the people? Was it believed by any one, that they would sanction such a course ? He would ask the advocates of this resolution for an adjournment, why
the people should be kept in a state of suspense, as to the result of the labors of this Convention, during all that period, and also for three months after we assembled again? He contended, that if this adjournment was 10 take place, for the purpose of enabling a few gentlemen to return home and transact their business, it was time this Convantion adjourned sine die. With regard to the place where we were to meet again, it was im. material to him. He could find accommodation to satisfy him any where. But, he could see no good reason, why we should not meet in Harrisburg again. The town was healthy, and we could be as well accommodated here, as elsewhere. He regarded this adjournment, as altogeiher contrary to the wishes of the people. He confessed, that he had not heard a soilitary good reason why we should adjourn for months to come. He should much like to be furnished with a good and substantial argument, with which he could satisfy the minds of his constituents. He had heard nothing that would convince those, whom he had the honor to represent on this floor.
Mr. CHANDLER, of Philadelphia said, he had heard with surprize that the gentleman from the county (Mr. Bkown) had received printed instructions from his constituents, in favor of the radical changes of the Constitution, which he (Mr. B.,) had advocated here: whilst he, (Mr. CHANDLER) had, he confessed, within the last twenty-fours, received from his constituents information of quite a different character.
Mr. Brown said, he had received letters, not instructions.
Mr. CHANDLER said, that he believed his friend (Mr. Brown) belonged to a party, which professed to obey the instructions of the people. He (Mr. C.) had learned, last evening, that our friends and neighbors of the third district, were beginning to hold opinions, in regard to the Judiciary and other questions, entirely different from what they had professed to hold, when they desired to give instructions to members on this floor.
Mr. FORWARD, of Allegheny, rose to a point of order. With all respect for his friend, he felt himself bound 10 ask of the Chair, whether it was in order to introduce matters of this sort here, for he thought they were not relevant.
The Chair: If any connection at all, it was a very remote one.
Mr. CHANDLER did not re, that it was so remote, as the gentleinan im. agined. He had risen to answer the gentleman (Mr. Brown) who had said that gentlemen of respectability, from the city of Philadelphia, had expressed their approbation, generally, of all the measures which had been proposed here. As he (Mr. C.) knew nothing of that matter, he could say nothing about it. He however, could not believe all that had been done, was approved of. And, as to what had been said, he thought, that must be much further from being approved.
Mr. Bidile, of Philadelphia, said, he believed that, after having spent so much time together, all party asperity had been much sostened, and we should go home with the best seelings towards each other. As 10 the time of meeting, he asked what public harm could follow the postponement of our meeting till spring, when we should have the advantage of this best of Halls for our accommodation ? The people were not so impatient as they had been represented, and would, he thought, be satisfied with the delay. There would be ample time given to submit the amend. wenus to the people, at the following Ociober elections. We would have the
use of this Hall, as he had before remarked, which would be a great saving of expense, although he deemed that an insignificant consideration. For, when the people of this Commonwealth met, to change all the foundations on which they rested all their institutions, and on which mainly de. pended the public happiness, he would say, that the question of dollars and cents, in a great Republic like this, was indeed insignificant. If, then, the Convention should adjourn to meet again in this place, they would have only about five weeks lo sit, before the Legislature would meet, when, it would be necessary that the Convention should remove elsewhere. Well, if an adjournment should take place till the spring, this inconvenience would be entirely avoided. With regard to the place of meeting, he had but a single word to say. It became hiin not to select Philadelphia : it was for gentlemen from the country to say, whether they would go among the citizens of that place or not. He trusted that he would not be suspected of any design to influence any gentlemen in this body; the knew that they were incapable of being influenced. He trusted that he said nothing unworthy, when he said that the citizens of Philadelphia, united in stiong regard for all the people of this Commonwealth, and nothing would be more delightful to them, than to take the gentlemen composing this body, by the hand, as brothers, indissolubly united, for weal, or for wo.
Mr. Smyth, of Centre, remarked that, very early in the session, a disposition was manifested to adjourn; and the excuse that was offered, was, the accominodation of the farmers. Now, if the Convention adjourns over until the 12th of April, the warm weather would set in before we could possibly get throngh, and the same excuse would be urged again. The farmers would lose two seasons. If we meet in October, we shall have at least seven weeks before the meeting of the Legislature: he therefore, appealed to those, who were in favor of the best interests of the country, to oppose the motion of adjournment until April next. He should vote in favor of meeting again in October next.
Mr. Forward, of Allegheny, observed, that if he could reconcile his own interest, with what he conceived to be due to the public, he should be in favor of adjourning over till April next. But, one reason operated on his mind against it, and that was, the recollection of what we hare done now, would be then almost gone. Il, however, we returned in October next that would not be the case, and consequently, no necessity would exist for a re-discussion-a re-hearing, on the subjects which have been discussed, to enable us to come to a correct conclusion. Again—if we meet in April, the session might be prolonged till July. His opinion was, that if this Convention should meet after the election, next October, those political asperities incident to a political contest, would have passed away, and the Convention could then proceed to its businsss in a calm and dignified manner.
The reasons offered for the adjourn ment were, that the warm weather was coming on-that members were apprehensive of impairing their health, and ihat it was no time for deliberation. He thought that October was the best time, whether the Convention asseinbled in Harrisburg or Philadelphia.
Mr. STEVENS, of Adams, said that when he offered the amendment, he believed that the question was, whether the Convention should meet i
Philadelphia, or in this Hall, in October, or in some inconvenient place fitted up at a great expense by this county, and under an influence which a Legislature, coming fresh froin the people, heated with politics, may have upon it. Being in favor of meting in this Hill, he had moved the amendment: but, unwilling that a misconstruction should be put upon his motives, he would with 'raw the amendment; and, as the question now would be, whether we shall meet in Harrisburg or Philadelphia, in Oeto. ber, he should vote for Philadelphia.
Mr. PORTER, of Northampion, would suggest to the gentleman from Dauphin, (Mr. Clark) that he hal better withdraw his amendment, so as to allow a direct vote to be taken on the resolution reported from the com. mittee, fixing Philadelphia as the place of inceting; because, if that should be negative.l, we would meet here as a matter of course.
Mr. Dickey, of Beaver, moved to amend the amendment by striking out al after the word “that”, and inserting, " for the purpose of proposing amendm’nts to the Constitution, to he subunited to the people for their ralification or rejection at the next genoral election this Convention will prolong its session one month beyond the 14th instant, and as inuch longer as may be necessary”.
Mr. D. remarked that the suggestions which had been thrown o'it by the gentleman from Lvco ning, M:. FLEMING) had induced him (M. D.) to offer this amend.nent. The gentleman had asked wh't necessity there was for adjourning, but he had rereived no answer. H: (Mr. Dickey) believed that there were now only tisteen absentees-the place wis healthy and in:lee: we were at this moment as comfortable as we had been since we assembled. H did not know whether, when the resolution for an aljournnient was offered a few dıys ago), il was warm weather, but, at any rate, it was cool enouyn now: then why, he would ask, should not gentlemen agree to remain ; as we misht get through with our lab iss in a month, or six weeks at most, and then th: amoulin ‘nts could be submite) to the peo ple at the next Octo'er elec io. No dout the people exp'cted this they would he laid before them at that time. He thorghi, thal we had better remain here an: fi ish our labors, than a ljourn to meet in Octob-r next, for hy doing so, much expense would he save... H: agreed with the gen. deman fron Alams, (Mr. STEVEYS) that if we cam: bak here after the excitement and heat of a contested election, we should be very unprepared to resume our labors in thai tone and temper which ought to characterize our proceelings. He could not refrain from once more irving to bring the Convention back to its duty, an.I letting the peuple know who are oppojed to subiniting to them, in October, the necessary reforins of the Constitution. He would, therefore, ask for the year and nays.
The question was taken, and decidel is th: negative, as follo:v3 :
Yras-Messrs. Agnew. Ayres, Barndollar, Birnitz, Barn, Butler Chin:ller. of Chester, Coin ller, of Philadelphia, Clarke of B2 iver, Clerk of Dubin, Cia. Cochran, Darrah, Deony, Dickev, Dickerson. Dillinger, Dorin, Du lop, E rle, Fleminz. Gamble, Gearhart. Haybur«, Hindirion, of Diup'rin, Miestor, Ker, Kaniz nacher, MS verry, Meredith, Merrill, Merkel, Mönig im 'rv. Purvianie. S:0! Sizr. Suively, Sterigere, Stevens, Stickel, Tazzart, Tnornas, Weilmin, Wsite, Wool.varl, Yvonz–16.
Narg--Mest, Bullwin, Binks, Ba clav, Buford, B.:), Bid lle, Bonban, Brown, oi Lancaster, Brown, of Northampton, Brown), of Philadelphi, Corey, Chamers, Chauncey, Clapp, Clarke, of ladino. Copc, Craig. Croin, Crawforl. Crurg, Curamin, Cunninghsm, Curll, Darlington, Farrelly, Forward, Fry, Fuller, G linore, Gruell, Harris, Hastings, Hellfenstein, High, Hopkinson, Houpt, Hyde, Ingersoll, Jenks, Keira,
Kennedy, Krebs, Long, Maclay, Magee, M'Cahen, M'Call, M'Dowell. Miller, Nevin, Overfield, Penny packer, Pollock. Purter, of L inca-ter, Porter, of Northampton. Reizırl, Read, Riter, R tter, Rogers, Russel, Saeger, Sellers, Serrill, Scheetz, Shellito, Sill, Smyth, Swetland, Weaver, Sergeant, President-71.
The question being on the motion of Mr. Clark, of Danphın,
Mr. Clark, of Dauphin, would merely state, he said, his confident hope, that, if the Convention met here in October, and pursued their la. bors with industry, they would arcoinplish them, and he ready to adjourn by the first of December. But if not, he had the assurance of the legally constituted borongh and county authorities, that suitable accommodations should be providel. As 10 accomninodations afforded for the meinhers here, he believed the hotels of Harrishurg were admited by every traveller to be equal to any in the Union. They were now not half full: but if there should be a great increase of the num'er of strangers here, the accommodations would be proporcionably increased, and other houses would be opened. T ese considerations, taken together with t e advantage af. foriled here in the facility of access to the public offices, and to the public records, would, he trusted, bring gentlenien to the conclusion that they ought to meet here in October.
Mr. CUNNINGHAM said, that as he was one of the commitice on this subjeci, lie would briefly state the reasons why he disagreed wiih the ma. jority as to the expediency of going to Philadelphia. Ile knew to well the kindness and hospitality of the people of that rity, 6 believe that we would transact our business there as well as here. He knew the hospitality of the citizens of Philadelphia so well, that he believed we should spend most of our time, while there, in social eating, drinking, and visit. ing. We, from the country, (said Mr. C.) cannot do business so well after drinking different kinds of fine wine, eating lobsters, &r., as without them, for we are not used to such things, and they would not agree well with iis. As to the health of Harrisbury. ho must le permited to bear his very strong testimony on that subject. He should not do is justice if he did not say that he considered it as healthy as any part of the country.-Wnere could we find more perfect exhibitions of health than we every day wi'ness here, in the rosy cheeks of the ladies who grice our galleries. He had himself resided here for some six years, and he could present his ow'r corporation as an evidence that Harrisburg was a healthy place. He had never been sick here one hour. The air from the Susquelianna and the mountains was as pure anil as liealiliy as any in the world. For the continuance of our labors, the summer would be more healthtul than the winter, because, in the winter, we must sit with closed doors, and inhale hot and ferid air.
Mr. Kerr said. there was one reason against going to Philadelphia, which had not been menined: that we should there be in the atmosphere of the Bank of the United Stites. We should not be there long, before every print of the party, from the great Globe downwards, would sav that we were bribed by the Bauk. He did not wish, in this way, to effyrd a topic for electioneering politicians.
Mr. Bell agreed with gentemen as to the beauty, healthfulness and hospitality of Harrisburg, but the question was, whetlier it would be convenient and proper for us to come back here and infringe upon the duties of another and larger body, whose duties, in some measure, will also in