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with the Lord Chancellor's daughter, the property passed into the possession of Thomas Howard, Earl of Norfolk, whose unhappy lot it was twenty-two years afterwards to lay down his life on the block. After his execution, his son, the Earl of Suffolk, disposed of the priory precinct and his mother's mansion therein to the City. In the year 1622, the inhabitants of Duke's Place, that had been builton part of the site of the old priory, having come to an open quarrel with the parishioners of St. Catherine Cree, obtained leave of Charles I. to rebuild the priory church, with the assistance of Lord Mayor Barkham. The church was accordingly rebuilt, and remains to this
©utrits. We must request correspondents desiring information on family matters of only private interest to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that the answers may be addressed to them direct.
WAVERLEY Novels.—What is to be understood by the allusions in the following passages?— “Do you know who taught the young person to dance? Some of her steps mightily resemble Le Jeune's of Paris.”—“Peveril of the Peak,’ Centenary Edition, chap. xxxi. p. 378. Who was Le Jeune 7 “Had contrived a species of armour, of which neither the horse-armoury in the Tower, nor Gwynnap's Gothic Hall, no, nor Dr. Meybrick's invaluable collection of ancient arms, has preserved any specimen.”—Ibid., chap. xxxii. p. 396. What is meant by Gwynnap's Gothic Hall? “Winterblossom is one of us—was one of us at least— and won't stand the ironing. He has his Wogdens still, that were right things in his day, and can hit the hay. stack with the best of us.”—“St. Ronan's Well,” Centenary Edition, chap. iv. p. 49. What were Wogdens?—pistols 1 “By the by, Lady Penelope, you have not vour collection in the same order and discipline as Pidcock and Polito.”—Ibid., chap. vii. p. 85. ..Who were Pidcock and Polito —keepers of a wild-beast show ! "For fair play's sake I made him take one of my pistols -right Kuchenritters.”—Ibid., chap. xix. p. 210. Is anything known of Kuchenritter?—presumably a gunsmith. “With a volley of such oaths as would have blown a
whole fleet of the Bethel Union out of the water.”—
Ibid., chap. xxi. p. 233.
Is Pat Murtough a fictitious person; or has he
any connexion with Murtough O'Bara, whose
defence of the Catholic doctrine of confession is
Wandering Willie alludes to ; but who was he?
certainly bore the same arms (without, of course, the Scotch tressures) and whose very early members had apparently no s at the end of their name, as at present ; moreover, the early Christian names of the English family were curiously similar to those given in the early accounts of the Scotch family. I found an interesting seal in the London Record Office of John Lyon, son of the above, which shows a bendlet dexter engrailed. Had this any significance?—as his son, Patrick Lyon, first Lord Glamis, bore no such bendlet.
W. LYON. 7, Redcliffe Square, S.W.
A MS. ITALIAN TRANSLATION of VARILLAs. —The historical works of Antoine Warillas are relished for their piquancy, in spite of their dubious veracity. Still, Bayle quotes largely from them. That these writings were esteemed by his contemporaries is shown by an Italian MS. translation of the ‘History of Francis I.” which I have recently acquired. The preface is probably a version of that of the first edition, published at La Haye in 1684. The MS. is certainly in contemporary writing, and is of that flowing Spanish type which had replaced the cramped calligraphy of an earlier date. The translation fills two thick quarto volumes. Perhaps some reader of “N. & Q.” might be able to state, or to conjecture, who the translator was. I can find no mention of him in Fontanini, Zeno, or Haym.
Edward PERCY JAcoBSEN. 18, Gordon Street, W.C.
SUSSEx House, FULHAM.—This house is said to have been called after Augustus Frederick, Duke of Sussex, sixth son of George III. Did the prince ever really live there? If so, between what years; and where can I ascertain any particulars as to his life there? I should be glad, also, of any information touching Mrs. Billington's connexion with the house. The late Dr. Forbes Benignus Wilson for many years kept the house as an asylum for the insane. I should like to know when he went to reside there. He had, I believe, two asylums in West London. Can any reader tell me the name of the second 7 Was it Brandenburgh House, facing the Fulham Palace Road? Kindly reply direct.
Chas. JAs. FERET. 49, Edith Road, West Kensington.
Usses or Osses.—Spending a few days lately at Folkestone, I found myself constantly attracted to the little fish-market at the eastern end of the town. The catch of fish, of many kinds, was most abundant, more especially of dog-fish, of which there were two species. One kind was of a uniform bluish grey; these were called “dogs.” The other was of almost precisely similar conformation, though running, perhaps, a trifle larger in
size. But they were of a dirty yellow brown colour, and spotted for their whole length with brown spots of a darker shade. To my question, “What do you call those fish?” I got the reply: “Usses, sir” (or “Osses”). But neither my informant nor the fish-auctioneer nor his clerk, who seemed to be men of better position and intelligence, could give me any explanation as to the meaning or origin of the name, or even as to the correct spelling of it. Can any reader of ‘N. & Q.' throw any light on the subject? Edward P. WolfERSTAN. Arts Club, Hanover Square.
THE BLACK FLAG.-How long has it been the custom to hoist the black flag to signify that a murderer has paid the last penalty? C. E. GILDERsome-DICKINsox. Eden Bridge.
[Was it not on the adoption of private executions, the first of which took place on Aug. 13, 1868?]
“THE ScAPE GoAT, BY Holm AN Hunt.— Has Holman Hunt's picture “The Scape Goat' ever been reproduced in any of our illustrated magazines; or is the large engraving the only copy to be obtained? B. W.
GUTTA-PERCHA.—Are the properties of guttapercha such as will last ! I am told that in process of time it crumbles away. Some Government seals are now stamped on gutta-percha, and it would be interesting to know if this material is as durable as the old wax formerly used. A.
“THE ARMs of Lionel.”—Can any one kindly tell me what is meant by this expression, which I find in several Wardrobe Rolls of the fourteenth century? It does not refer to the son of Edward III., for it occurs chiefly before his birth, and when his shield is alluded to at a later period, it is identified by the addition of the words, “the King's son.” Once it is “the arms of England and Lyonel”; again, in 1333-4, “a hall of Lumbard bordered with escocheons of the arms of Lyonel"; in 1329, a gold cup with four “escocheons de arm' Leonelli in fundo.” The meaning of the term was evidently well understood at the time.
“CLICKING-TIME.”—I have been unable to find. in any Yorkshire glossary, the compound word clicking-time, meaning twilight. It was first brought under my notice, some weeks ago, in ordinary conversation, and, recognizing it as a rara avis, I made a note of it. Inquiries were then instituted at three different places in Holderness (Swine, Burstwick, and Hollym), and natives of each place recognized the word as an old and familiar friend. One person said it was called “clicking-time" because, when she was a girl, the boys and girls used “ti click hod o'yan anuther” (catch hold of
one another). A second suggested that it was so named because then a brief rest was “clicked ” (snatched), that it was a sort of blind man's holiday. A third thought that the word was derived from the clicking of the gossips' knitting needles, or the clacking of their tongues, as they exchanged confidences and discussed their neighbours' affairs over the garden hedge in the gloaming. J. Nicholson. 50, Berkeley Street, Hull.
40TH REGIMENT.-Can any of your readers inform me whether there are portraits extant of the undermentioned officers of this regiment?—General the Hon. Edward Cornwallis, uncle of the first Marquis Cornwallis, or of General Sir Brent Spencer, G.C.B., of Egyptian and Peninsular fame? Also, can any one furnish me with particulars or anecdotes connected with this regiment, from family papers, letters, &c. 7 X. L.
MARINE ANIMALs IN NorthERN LATITUDEs.In Adamnan's ‘Life of St. Columba,' bk. ii. ch. xlii., is an account of a voyage of one Cormac and his companions, when for fourteen days in summer they had sailed northward, so far, as it seemed, that they had got beyond the limits of human wanderings. On the fourteenth day they were greatly terrified by swarms of some unknown Creatures :“Occurrerant tetrae et infestae nimis bestiolae, quae horribili impetucarinam et latera, puppimgue et proram ita forti feriebant percussura, ut pelliceum tectum navis penetrales J. penetrare posse. Quae, ut qui inerant ibidem postea narrarunt, prope magnitudinem ranarum, aculeis permolestae, non tamen volatiles sed natatiles, erant; sed et remorum infestabant palmulas." The story seems to be founded on known facts. What could the bestiolae have been 7 Are there swarms of cuttle-fish in northern seas; and would they cling on to the oars, &c.? J. T. F. Bp. Hatfield's Hall, Durham.
TENERIFFE or TENERIFE.-I shall be glad to know which is correct. John LANGLEY.
SIB STEPHEN Evance.—Can any of your contributors say who were the parents of Sir Stephen Evance, of St. Edmund's the King and Martyr, Lombard Street; or where I can see a better pedigree than the incomplete one in the Visitation of London? A. Evance, F.R.G.S.
“THE BRITISH Knight ERRANT.’—In Messrs. Boase and Courtney's ‘Bibliotheca Cornubiensis' (vol. iii. p. 935) is entered “The British Knight Errant. " A tale in two volumes. Lond., printed for W. Lane, Leadenhall Street, 1790. , 12mo., pp. 163 and 154”; and appended is the note, *The scene is laid at Launceston Castle.” I have been unable to trace a copy of this in the British Museum Library. Is there known to be one in existence 7 DUNHEVED.
RESIDENCE OF MRS. SIDDONS IN PADDINGTON. (8th S. iii. 267, 396). Since making my inquiry on this subject I have carefully examined the Crace collection of maps and views in the British Museum, as well as every other available authority, with the view of satisfactorily determining the point at issue. Considering that the building has only disappeared within little more than thirty years, it would not be supposed that the task would present much difficulty; but the great extension of building in Bayswater and Westbourne within recent years, and the devastation committed by the Great Western Railway, render the identification of sites in those districts no easy matter. Another element of doubt consists in the frequent changes that have occurred in street nomenclature, of which I shall give an instance further on. The first question to determine seemed to be the site of Westbourne Manor House, in the vicinity of which the modern house known as Westbourne Place, of which Westbourne Farm was an appendage, was subsequently built. According to Lysons,” Westbourne Place was built by Isaac Ware, the architect, a little to the south of the old house, which was suffered to stand some years longer. After several changes of ownership, it became the property, in 1800, of Mr. Samuel Pepys Cockerell, who resided in it till his death in 1827. In the memoir of Ceckerell contained in the “Dict. Nat. Biog.' the house is called Westbourne Lodge, but the fact that Westbourne Place was Cockerell's residence is confirmed by J. T. Smith, in his * Nollekens and his Times,’ vol. ii. p. 209. Lysons goes on to say that “near Westbourne Place is an elegant cottage, the property of Mr. Cockerell, and for some years past the residence of Mrs. Siddons, who has expended a considerable sum upon its improvement and decoration.” Campbell says that Mrs. Siddons came into occupation of the house in April, 1805, and she had therefore resided in it for six years when Lysons wrote in 1811. Gutch's map of 1828, Bartlett and Butler's map of 1834, and Lucas's map of 1847, do not show Westbourne Place, but they agree in marking the site of Westbourne Manor House as lying to the north and slightly to the east of the second canal bridge on the Harrow Road. To the south of the large house is a smaller building, which I assume to be Mrs. Siddons's residence, subsequently known as Desborough Lodge or Desborough Cottage. On Gutch's map the term “Desboroughs” is applied to two parcels of land lying north and south of the canal, and situated immediately to
the eastward of the Manor House boundaries. The grounds of the Manor House were apparently comprised within the triangle of which the apex is the church of St. Mary Magdalene and the base the Harrow Road, Clarendon Street and Cirencester Street forming respectively the western and eastern sides. The “Desboroughs” lay still further to the eastward, and Desborough Lodge must, I think, have occupied the site of a small street, or rather a cul-de-sac, which practically forms an enclave of Cirencester Street, near the Harrow Road, and is still known as Desborough Street. The view that Mrs. Siddons's residence lay on the northern or right-hand side of the Harrow Road as you proceed to Harrow is confirmed by the facsimile of a letter from Charles Mathews, in my possession, dated “Westbourne Green, Aug. 21, 1845,” at the bottom of which is a rough sketch, indicating to a friend with whom an appointment had been made the whereabouts of the house, which is called by Mathews “Desborough Cottage.” To the left of the picture is a distant view of the church of Harrow-on-the-Hill, while to the right of the spectator the gables of the cottage appear above a belt of shrubs and trees which surmount the garden palings. The mile-and-a-half stone from Tyburn Turnpike (no longer existing) is depicted in the right foreground. It is clear from the sketch that the cottage was on the northern side of the main road. Mr. GRIFFINHoofe's suggestion that Desborough Lodge may have been somewhere on the site of Desborough Place is not, I think, confirmed by the maps. On the earlier ones the site of Desborough Place and the adjacent streets is occupied by a portion of Westbourne Green, but in Lucas's plan of 1847 the land is built over, and must have presented much the same appearance as it does at present. Hampden Street, Waverley Road, and Brindley Street are clearly marked, but the whole of the present Marlborough Street is shown as Desborough Terrace. Subsequently the portion of this street which faces the railway was called Desborough Place, and the remainder Marlborough Place. The whole has now been renamed Marlborough Street, and Desborough Place has disappeared. Marlborough Street means nothing, whereas the original name of Desborough Terrace partook of the nature of a landmark in indicating the site of old Desborough House, which I judge from the maps must have been in existence as late as 1834. Mr. Walford, in his “Old and New London,’ states that some vestiges of the old house are apparent in Desborough Place (now Marlborough Street), but I have failed to find any. As Robins, in his “Paddington, Past and Present,” says that Desborough Lodge was in existence as late as 1853, it could not have been situated on the site of the block of houses “on the north side of the railway and east of Royal Oak Station,”
which I have shown was built over before 1847. The conclusion I have arrived at is that Westbourne Farin, subsequently known as Desborough Lodge or Desborough Cottage, was situated at, or close to, the present Desborough Street, and that it could not have been destroyed to make room for the Great Western Railway, as Cunningham asserts. I must, however, in fairness state that this conclusion is to some extent based on two assumptions. The first is that Westbourne Place, the residence of Mr. Cockerell, was identical with the Westbourne Manor House of the maps. The second is that Westbourne Farm, the residence of Mrs. Siddons, was identical with Desborough Cottage, the residence of Charles Mathews and Madame Westris. Neither of these assumptions is proved, but I think the evidence is all in favour of their correctness. It is just possible that Westbourne Place was on the site of a large enclosed piece of land, with a house, marked as Westbourne Park upon the maps. This house was situated at the southern portion of Westbourne Green, to the westward of the present Porchester Road, on land now occupied by Westbourne Park Road and the adjacent thoroughfares. If this view is correct, Mrs. Siddons's cottage may possibly have been swept away by the Great Western Railway; but as all the authorities state that it was in close vicinity to the land now occupied by the Lock Hospital, I do not think it could have been so far distant as Westbourne Park, and I have come across no evidence that corroborates any view except that which I have accepted. W. F. PRIDEAUx.
Desboroughs is marked on the plan of Paddington parish, 1838 (not 1828 as printed). I remember the house where Madame Westris lived being pointed out to me about the end of the forties. It lay a little off the Harrow Road (which here runs northwards), on the east side, on the south of the canal. Access to the house was by a carriage drive. The Lock Hospital is built on the north of the canal, and on the west side of the Harrow Road. Westbourne Manor House was on the opposite side of the Harrow Road to the hospital, and also beyond the canal.
Copies of Mr. Gutch's plan, and also a large plan of the district engraved for the now defunct Commissioners of Sewers for Westminster, &c., in 1840, can be seen at the library of the Royal Institute of British Architects, No. 9, Conduit Street, W.
Which was the house or the houses named Westbourne Place 7–a property which belonged about 1749 to Isaac Ware, architect, who erected his house with old materials brought from Lord Chesterfield's house in May Fair (Lysons, ‘Environs,’ 1795, iii. 330). It was bought by another architect, Samuel Pepys Cockerell, who was residing there in 1796. Was Westbourne Place the same as Westbourne Manor House; or did it
apply to the portion called Desboroughs in this France attached to it, just as Dr. WOODWARD Saw inquiry? Lysons does not mention the Manor them in 1890. The shield of No. 18, however, House or Desboroughs, though he describes West-correctly shows the arms of Portugal, and conbourne Place.
WYATT PAPWORTH. sequently Baedeker is right with regard to this It is very kind of the Bayswater Chronicle, 1884,
lady. to ascribe to "& visitor" my remarks about the
The author does not seem to have any doubt
about it that No. 8 was meant for the Arthur of above house, which I well remember, and especially the very words in which I describe it in
the legend. The tomb as originally designed was Old and New London,' comparing it to a “rural
to be on a larger scale than the present one, and vicarage.” My friend MR. GRIFFINHOOFE will find
was to be surrounded by forty statues of the same a back-front view of the old house, with the poplar
dimensions as the present twenty-eight. Of the forty trees in sight, at p. 216 of vol. v. (not vi.) of my
persons whom the statues were to represent, Maxi. work, and my description of it on pp. 214, 215.
milian claimed thirty-eight as belonging to his He will also see there what is said about Des
family circle, the two exceptions being the two borough Place.
E. WALFORD, M.A.
illustrious knights represented by the pair of statues Ventnor.
attributed to Vischer, namely, King Arthur of
England and Theodoric, King of the Ostrogoths, INNSBRUCK HOFKIRCHE (8th S. ii. 81, 162, 211, who, according to the author, were merely invited 221, 315, 349, 409, 491).-Since sending you my guests. Of course, somo modern genealogists last note on this subject, I have rediscovered a kind would greatly reduce the number of Maximilian's of semi-official account of the history of Maxi ancestors ; but we must not forget the fact that milian's tomb by Dr. Scbönberr, in vol. xi. of the genealogists at the beginning of the sixteenth cen'Jahrbuch der kunst-historischen Sammlungen tury, were not so strict as those of our days, and des oesterreichischen Kaiserhouses' (1890, pp. 140- hence the many imaginary pedigrees which have 268). The account is extremely interesting and been prepared for Maximilian, and are preserved very elaborate, and is founded on original research in the imperial archives, must be viewed in the among the various rich MS. collections of the spirit of the old emperor's times. Some of these imperial house of Austria. The author gives a list pedigrees, notably those illustrated by the “old of the twenty-eight large statues surrounding the masters," have been published in past volumes of emperor's tomb, supplying, professedly, the names the Jahrbuch. They show numerous princes of the persons whom they were intended to repro- with shields charged with a lion rampant and sont from documentary sources, but unfortunately others quartering the three batrachia with the three following too closely Baedeker's list and without fleurs-de-lye. DR. WOODWARD calls the former taking the least trouble to notice the heraldic frogs ; but were they not really meant for toads devices on the shields, and consequently without | (crapauds)? attempting to explain the glaring discrepancies The author publishes also reproductions of somo since pointed out in ‘N. & Q.'
desigos for statues prepared by Gilg Sesselschreiber, The names of the first seventeen statues agree the artist of several statues in the group, and by with DR. WOODWARD's list, with the exception of others. One of these sketches (not carried out) No. 4, which is given as “ Duke Albrecht II., the represents the Eoglish hero-king holding a shield Wise," though the arms are those of an emperor. charged with the arms of France and England Then follow, after Kuniganda :
quarterly, and on & shield of pretence & lion 18. Eleanor of Portugal, mother of Maximilian. rampant, probably meant for Hapsburg, as the 19. Mary of Burgundy, his first wife.
sketch bears the inscription, “Kuenig Artus zu 20. Elizabeth of Hungary, wife of “King” | Eopgellandt, Grave zu Habspurg." This proves Albrecht II.
beyond doubt that the artist meant to represent 21. Godfrey of Bouillon.
the King Artus of the legend, and that he was 22. “King” Albrecht I., in spite of the arms of under the impression that Artbur of Caerleon was Hungary.
a Count of apsburg and an ancestor of Maxi23. Frederic IV., Duke of Austria and Count of milian. Another drawing shows a design for a Tyrol (" with the empty pockets").
statue of Bianca Maria. The arms assigood to 24. Leopold III., Duke of Austria. And omitting her are a quartered shield, with an eagle displayed the next three, wbich are the same as in DR. Wood l in the first and last, and the Visconti guivre in the WARD's list,
intermediate quarters and on an inescutcheon a 28. “King” Albrecht II., though the arms are cross argent (?). not those of an om peror. Pbotograpbio repro- As regards the shield of statue No. 28, I have dactions of a dozen of the large statues are given already stated in a previous note that history in the volume. That of Artbur is shown without koows only one Albert, King of Hungary and a shield, and that of Philip the Good, of Burgundy Bohemia. As he was also King of the Romans, (No. 14), has the quartered shield of England and there is not the slightest doubt that he is repre