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twelve at night, and occasionally I have heard dians, he took pains to have the best likeness, if him in a neighbouring wood between midnight any ? If so, why not take that ? P. A. L. and one o'clock.
Loxo FAMILY CONNECTION WITH CHURCH
LIVINGS (4th S. ii. 54.)— My late very worthy The nightingale is the latest bird, not the earliest. good friend, the Rev. James Turner, M.A., who Michelet, L'Oiseau, p. 323, talking of a nightingale, 0.8.p. 29 Oct. 1863, æt. 66, was the third in direct says: il commencait vers minuit et continuait succession of a family which had held the living jusqu'à l'aube.” Every one must have heard them
of Meerbrook, near Leek, for an uninterrupted late at night, about eleven o'clock, and going on
period of at least 130 years; his father, James till dawn. Álichelet seems to think the lark the Turner, M.A. having died on August 7, 1828, æt. earliest bird, and I, about ten days ago, heard a
84; and his grandfather, Daniel Turner, B.A. on lark at a few minutes before three o'clock in the
Oct. 11, 1789, at. 81. morning, when the dawn was yet hardly ap- indisputable record of a most marvellous natural
There is, in connection with this parish, the pearing and long before any other birds were heard.
R. C. S. W.
phenomenon-an icy gnomon (an exact reproducStowford, Deron.
tion of the displaced one of brass, bearing date
1673), which was found on the top of the old vilFor several snccessive nights (moonlight) in lage sun-dial on the morning of Tuesday, Feb. 12, June last a nightingale commenced its charm here 1822, the formation of which has never yet been in a neighbouring bush at about ten p.m., and satisfactorily explained, and full details of whose kept it up till late in the morning. Twice I sat appearance may be found in the Christian Rebeneath it till after twelve, and I could still hear membrancer of Norember, 1835. JOHN SLEIGH. it when I went to bed at two. J. WETHERELL.
Thornbridge, Bakewell. Slingsby, York.
PORTRAITS OF HENRY LAWES (4th S. ii. 39.) –
In addition to the portrait by Faithorne and the I consider this a subject of considerable interest, anonymous one indicated in Bromley's Catalogue, and perbaps may therefore be allowed to state the two paintings were exhibited at the Kensington following, coming within my own knowledge, and Exhibition of Portraits last year, of which photonoted in my common-place book since I was a graphs may be obtained. One, No. 717, repreboy. In purely rural districts of the south-east sents him young; the other, No. 549, with a of Ireland, Wexford, Carlow, Kilkenny, Wick- musical canon, at a later period of life. This, low, &c, the first bird is beyond question the which is the property of the University of Oxford, lark, which in fine clear weather is always up be- is probably the original of the engraved portraits. fore one o'clock in the morning. The quail, or corn
J. B. D. creak, screeches almost without intermission all Reform Club. night. The cock always crows at twelve fifteen HERALDIC QUERY (4th S. ii. 55.) — Consult times; again at one, two, and three, for the same Boyer's Great Theatre of Honour and Nobility, in number. If a bird that makes the first noise be which the English is given on one side the page designated the “earliest bird," I think the domestic and the French on the other. It is a very useful cock is that bird. Our Holy Redeemer told Peter work, though now little used.
G. W. M. that “this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice," &c. And Shakspeare
, alluding Payne has published two volumes on Jersey fami
JERSEY FAMILIES (41 S. ii. 55.)_Mr. J. B. to that, or rather using it in Hamlet, has,
lies -A Monograph of the House of Lempriere, “ Some say, that ever 'gainst that scason comes, Wherein our Saviour's birth is celebrated,
4to, 1362, and The Lineage and Pedigree of the This bird of dawning singeth all night long."
Family of Millais. 1805, fol. G. W. M. I do not say positively that the cock is the Syon COPE (4th S. ii. 65.)—
There is an elaboearliest bird, but he is amongst the earliest. In rate description of the Syon Cope by Dr. Rock, the ordinary sense of wild or field birds, the lark in bis Church of our Fathers, at the end of chapis, in my mind, the first. Now, what is the last ? ter vi. in vol. ii. I received also from John, Earl Can any one tell me a later bird than the little of Shrewsbury, the particulars of its coming into robin redbreast-singing at night?
his possession. There was one matter, however,
S. REDMOND. appertaining to it which had never been eluciLiverpool.
dated. I allude to the two sentences, or rather
the same sentence embroidered on one side of the PORTRAIT OY WILLIAN PENN (4th S. i. 34.) – cope in a very abbreviated form, and repeated on Is it not to be supposed that when Benjamin the opposite side at greater length. In the first West, the American, P.R.A., painted his picture case the letters form a semicircle, but without of William Penn making a treaty with the In- any scroll or border; but in the second, they are
DEV N: PERS: DE :
included in a scroll, waving very gracefully. In being the imperative of the Anglo-Saxon verb this the letters are thus arranged, though they beon-utan, to be out. The meaning of the exprescannot here be given in their actual shape, which sion becomes then, without that, of which we have is quite peculiar:
the literal equivalent in the French sans que, in the Italian senza che, and in the German ohne das.
M. A. B. will find but that employed in the After puzzling a long time over this, when I had the pleasure of examiving the venerable old Midsummer Night's Dream, Act II. Sc. 2: cope at the Alton Towers, I thought that its
“Why art thou here,
Come from the farthest steep of India, meaning might be brought out by comparing it
But that, forsooth, the bouncing Amazon, with the abbreviated sentence on the opposite Your buskin'd mistress and your warrior love, side; which ran thus, the letters being all close To Theseus must be wedded?” together, and without any points of division :
A language is a garden that should be dili
gently, weeded, but the operation must be perI considered that both sentences were the same, formed with the greatest care, and with no inand that the full reading was :
prudent zeal; otherwise we risk destroying the “ De universis periculis defende.”
corn stalks with the tares, and thereby falling Though it might be supposed that the shorter into poverty and stiffness of expression. sentence would be more likely to be explained by
PRINCE ETIENNE DE CROUY.
Pall Mall, the longer one: the contrary was the fact, from the letters in the shorter being more perfectly and
I have another “word” with slovenly writers : correctly formed than the corresponding letters in Why do they say " whether or no," instead of the longer legend.
“whether or not”? The readers of “N. & Q." It is an address to the Blessed Virgin, whose will do good service by giving the weight of their coronation is so conspicuously represented upon authority in favour of what appears to me the
M. A. B. the cope, so like the usual words at the beginning more correct expression. of her Litany—“A periculis cunctis libera nos"
ROMNEY MARSH FORMED SUBSEQUENTLY TO that I have no doubt that this is the correct ex
CÆSAR'S INVASIONS (4th S. i. 595.) — Mr. Applanation, though I believe it had not been pre- pach maintains that, “in Cæsar's time, the sea viously hit upon. I have now before me the
filled the whole bay of Appuldore.” How far I tracing carefully made on the above occasion, differ from that view, I have endeavoured to show more than twenty years ago; and have never since wavered from the above interpretation.
in my map of the county of Kent, especially in
the coast line as it existed during the primeval The set of vestments, chasuble, dalmatic and tunicella, which were presented by the Catholic period, ; ; prior to Cæsar's invasions. That map Bishop of Waterford to the lamented John, Earl illustrate Cæsar's marches and proceedings in
was published more than fourteen years since, to of Shrewsbury, were given by him to St. Mary's Kent: it will also be found in Part xli. of the College, Oscott; and are there carefully preserved Archæological Mine (Russell Smith, Soho Square). in the museum of the college.
F. C. H.
The map alone may be had, price 6d., of William CORRUPT ENGLISH (4th S. ii. 54.) – For the Chandler, Dartford. In it I have endeavoured to information of M. A. B., I should say that writers prove that, in the century before the Christian of the phrase—" It cannot be doubted but that he epoch, the Isle of Lomea was not submerged; is sincere"-must have had in their minds Ker- and that then Romney Marsh consisted of three cherer Arnold's Latin Exercises, where the ex- islands : the channels around which have silted pression, “ Dubitari non potest quin,” etc., is so up, consequent on the divergence of the mouth of frequently presented to our youthful eye as an the river Rother, from Lympne (the Portus Leexcellent example of correct Latinity. The Eng- manis) to Rye in Sussex. lish version given by M. A. B. is literal enough,
ALFRED JOHN DUNKIN. but its elegance may be questioned.
OXONIENSIS. Wormingford, near Colchester.
CHRONICLE BY John Douglas (4tb S. ii. 70.)—
The manuscript containing the Chronicle ascribed Your correspondent M. A. B. condemns but to John Douglas is now preserved among the that as incorrect English. It is not for me to Harleian MSS. in the British Museum, No. 4690, pretend to decide whether it be so or not, but it and the only authority on which the authorship seems perfectly in accordance with the genius of rests is an anonymous note in the volume, as folthe Latin as well as with that of the Teutonic lows: “ The memorable Cronicke, written by languages.
John Douglas, Munke of Glastonburye Abbaye." One of the meanings of but is, according to Although referred to by Douce (Illustr. Shaksp. Tooke, exactly the same as that of without, it vol. i. p. 423), and Dibdin (Ames, vol. i. p. 90),
yet in all probability John Douglas was merely frid in the Appendix to his Chronological Table, the transcriber, for the work is nothing more than under the date of 747.
F. C. H. a copy of the common English prose Chronicle of
“WIRE-IN" (3rd S. vii. 261.) - This is from a the Brute. For further information, see Sir F: wire fence, and means to draw close. If any of Madden's introduction to the romance of Havelok your readers will notice a workman engaged upon the Dane, 1828, pp. xxv-xxvii. SUUM CUIQUE. å wire fence, he will at once perceive how suggesFuscum (4th S. ii. 35, 69.)-- Probably Franklin, tive the occupation is of wire-ing-in, or drawing
ALFRED JOAN DUNKIN. in calling his scrap-book fuscum, merely meant to imply that it was not kept with sufficient neatness Dr. Wilmot'S LETTER (4th S. ii. 50.)— to deserve the appellation of albu'n.
“Notwithstanding the flourishing state of the royal
C. G. PROWETT, family, the Duke of Somerset was chief mourner."-DodGarrick Club.
dington's Diary, April 13, 1751. Saint HEREFRID (4th S. ii. 56.)–According to
Bubb walked in the funeral of Frederic Prince Peter Heylin’s list of the Bishops of Winchester, of Wales as a Privy Councillor. One therefore Herefridus was the fourteenth occupant of that prefers his account of what he saw, to what Sir see, having succeeded Withinius in 827, and con
Richard Phillips heard. tinuing in possession of it till 832. Heylin winds he must have known that the copyright of libel
If John Dunning had been the author of Junius, up his account of the foundation, and other par- lous matter was not assignable
, and that any ticulars relating to that diocese, in the following assignment of copyright was regulated by, rules words: “ Finally, this see hath yielded to the church ten saints,
laid down in the statute of Anne, whereas Junius and to Rome two Cardinals ; to England, one Lord Chief professed to assign the copyright of litellous Justice, nine Chancellors, twu Lord Treasurers, one Lord matter by a sentence in a book. (Preface to Letters Privy Seal, one Chancellor of the University of Oxford, of Junius.) another to the Exchequer, and twenty-three Prelates of “ The other letters of Junius were written in a band the Garter."
which a well educated woman used about the comOf the ten saints he gives the names in order, mencement of the century, approaching the Italian. The beginning with St. Headda, the fourth bishop in letter to the King was in a different hand." —Butler's
Reminiscences, vol. i. p. 81. 677, and ending with St. Henricus Blesensis, Card. thirty-sixth bishop in 1129. Herefrid holds
The reminiscent had carefully examined them.
It was not Woodfall, but his apprentice, no place in this catalogue; hence, if it be a cor
Jackson (afterwards proprietor of the Ipswich rect one, he was no saint.
From what little I know of the rules for canoni- Journal), who saw a tall gentleman, wearing bag sation in the church of Rome, I do not think that and sword, throw a letter into the office. Some martyrdom of itself would be considered enough have thought that “Leonidas”. Glover, therefore,
was Junius, because he walked into the city every to entitle any one to the possession of this dignity. Before it be conferred, which can only be by the morning with his wig carefully dressed, and his
hat under his arm. But it is not said that he sovereign pontiff, a strict and solemn investigation takes place of the claims of the departed, and
wore a sword, and that fact (if true) makes all the evidence is sought from every available quarter, been & clergyman. I took the trouble, with re
difference. If he wore a sword he could not have as to whether miracles have been wrought by him, ference to this point, to examine carefully the either before or after his decease. On the merits, or supposed merits, of which evidence would, if In 1770 the custom of wearing swords, except by
portraits in the Kensington Exhibition last year. I mistake not, very much depend his chance of obtaining a place in the Calendar.
great personages en grande tenue, had gone out. In Bede we find, "Anno 747, Herefridus vir
That Junius was a man of rank appears from Dei obiit.”. Can this be the person to whom the
two facts : First, some of his letters were sealed "come of Ivery” belonged? I wonder
, vol. i. p. 21) that the letter signed “Can
with a coronet; secondly, Almon said (Life of in medieval Latin, vir Dei_ is ever synonymous
dour with sanctus or divus, EDWARD Tew, M.A.
was written by a nobleman. As he pub
lished that pamphlet he was likely to know, and St. Herefrid was honoured in the North of England Mr. Parkes would not have argued so zealously to on June 2, and styled the Man of God. He was prove that pamphlet to have been the work of the Abbot of Lindisfarne, who attended St. Cuth- Junius, if he had been aware of that declaration bert in his last sickness, and administered to him of Almon's. If that pamphlet was written by a the last sacraments. It was from him that St. noblenjan, and was also written by Junius, good Bede received the circumstantial and edifying ac- bye to the Franciscan theory. count of the illuess and death of St. Cuthbert, An engraving of the coronetted seal may be which he has given at length in his history. St. seen in the plates prefixed to the third volume of Bede has recorded the happy death of St. Here- Woodfall's edition. The impression of the top part of the seal remains so perfect that if it had them, and that their "productive" value would been that of an earl, the rays and pearls would have be proportionately increased. been still visible. As they are not visible, it could That the rights of the clergy should be prenot have been the coronet of an earl, whether served (so far as fees, &c., are in question) I would Chesterfield or Temple. Will Mr. Smith, editor propose that an equitable proportion of those of the Grenville papers, consider this ?
charged for searches, certified transcripts, &c. (say JOHN WILKINS, B.C.L. two-thirds) should be paid to the clergyman, for THE BADGER (3rd S. vii. 289.) - Within the last certificate, &c., was obtained. I have every reason
the time being, of the parish from which such five years a badger dug himself a residence in Darenth Wood (which is only sixteen miles from cially advantageous to the clergy, and would at
to believe that this arrangement would be finanLondon), and there abode for some months. He the same time amply provide for the proper mainwould not have been discovered had not a fox
tenance and custody of these documents. also selected the same locality. It took nearly ten hours to dig the badger out of his burrow. scripts should be deposited with these registers,
I would also propose that the diocesan tranProbably within the present century no badger so as to replace, as far as possible, the unfortunaté has selected a residence so near the great metro
gaps which occur in the original records. My polis. ALFRED JOHN DUNKIN.
plan is but roughly sketched here, yet I think, ROTISCHILD AT THE BATTLE OF WATERLOO
when calmly considered, it will meet any argu(4th S. i. 535.)– The intelligence of this battle was
ments against “disestablishment and disendowbrought to England by the engineer, or, as the ment,” which at this time might not unreasonably term would now be, projector of the Hungerford
51, Westbourne Park Villas. Suspension Bridge. Upon reaching London, he went to Lord Harrowby, who discredited the news DANTE'S “INFERNO (4th S. ii. 54.)—Through (after consulting with his coadjutors in the go- the kindness of Mr. (or Dr.) David Johnston I am vernment), especially as their informant would not in possession of a copy of the translation which give a satisfactory account of how he had crossed he has printed of the Inferno, with its successor the Channel, and how he had left France, and yet the Purgatorio. The work is not, strictly speakwas able to say that the French were in totaling, “ published : " it was printed at the Chronicle flight. He was immediately placed under surveil- office, Kingston Buildings, Bath, and both parts lance. Rumours had been flying about London were issued in 1867. The metre is blank verse ; for some days a great battle having been fought, and the merit of the translation is certainly suci but the weather had been eo tempestuous that no as to qualify it for wider diffusion than circumvessel had been able to cross the Channel. Weary stances give it at present. W. M. ROSSETTI. of delay, the government, after another examina- 56, Euston Square, N.W. tion of their informant, resolved to draw up a paper, and publish it in the Gazette next day.
CLITHEROE IN 1775 (4th S. ii. 33.)-The poetiWhilst actually engaged in compiling this docu- cal description of Clitheroe in 1775 sent by your ment a messenger arrived, and confirmed the fact correspondent G. H. A. has been printed by the of the defeat of Napoleon ; but even then the Chetham Society in a volume of utter disorganization of the French was not be- “Miscellanies: Being a Selection from the Poems and lieved. I had the above statement from the gen- of Claughton, Incumbent of Clitheroe and Downbam, and
Correspondence of the Rev. Thomas Wilson, B.D., Rector tleman's own lips a year before his death.
Master of the Grammar School of Clitheroe. With Me. ALFRED Jonx DUNKIN. moirs of his Life. By the Rev. F. R. Raines, M.A., F.S.A., Dartford.
Hon. Canon of Manchester, and Incumbent of Milnrow,
1847." PARISH REGISTERS (4th S. ii. 20.) — Will you
The poem occurs in the first page of the work, permit me to add one other argument (if it can be and differs in no respect from the copy printed in needed) for the preservation of these most valu, “N. & Q.” It does not bear any date in the able national memorials ? All who have engaged | printed work, but I find from Mr. Raines's life in searches among parish registers agree in con- that Mr. Wilson was licensed to the school “30th demning the impediments, both lay and clerical, June, 1775."
T. T. W. and the expenditure of time and money which they entail, especially when, to be exhaustive, " BUTTON YOUR LIP” (4th S. i. 603.) – It is they extend into all adjacent parishes. These not improbable that the expression so common causes combine, doubtless to a very great degree, now-a-days with schoolboys — viz.“ shut up," in forbidding their more frequent pursuit. I be- when they wish to stop any unpleasant teasing, lieve that, if these registers were deposited in some may be a corruption of " button your lip," which central institution like the Record Office, there A. B. says has a very ancient origin. would be far more frequent references made to
M. A, B.
QUOTATION WANTED (4th S. ii. 37.) — “ Time is sus, but at Tarsus, when Cleopatra was hailed as money
" — whence ? Time being a measure of Venus he was hailed as Bacchus, not as Mars or duration, and money being a measure of price, and Hercules; and at the close of his career, Plutarch one being commonly given as an equivalent for the also mentions (60, 75) that he affected to imitate other, therefore time
money; and hence " time Bacchus. Dion Cassius (xlviii. 39) says the is money,' as poor Richard says.” Whether Frank- Athenians called him young Bacchus, and married lin is the author of the precise phrase I cannot their Athene (=Minerva) to him. But it was no say, but I believe it is found in a little work en- joke for them, as he demanded for his new wife's titled The Way to Wealth -" to copy which is fortune one million drachma (=28001.). His piracy.” A bookseller wishing very much to amusements partook of the character of Bacchus, possess it, I let him have it many years ago, or I for when he went to Alexandria he joined the might now give a quotation therefrom; but pos- society of auiuntotiw (Inimitables), “jolly dogs," sibly this hint may lead thereto. I rather think, (Plut. 28). He put an end to this society afterhowever, the phrase may be derived from the wards, and formed another of ouvarobavovuévwv Bible, which inculcates"" redeeming the time.” (Immortalizers), "suicides,” not the less jolly on Collate Eph. v. 16, Col. iv. 5, and Isa. lii. 3. account of the name (Plut. 71). On the whole I
J. BEALE. would suggest the exclusion of all reference to
Marc Antony, Alexander, or other historical perMarc Antony AS BACCHUS (4th S. ii. 36 )- sonages, and the adoption of Bacchus himself, for The Greeks had traditionary likenesses of their Ephesus was celebrated for good wine, and of the deities,* and that of Bacchus was so much at best kind, whether for gratification or dietetic purvariance with the features of Marc Antony that it poses (Strabo, xiv. ch. i. $ 15). The adjacent is difficult to conceive how the Ephesians could ísle, Samos, produces muscat which, as stated by adapt the actual face to that tradition. From the Sonnini (ii
. 306), yields to no other Greek wine. British Museum an impression of a coin is given This island was so fertile that, according to the in the Penny Cyclopeedia (ii. 134), with the likeness proverb, as Menander says, “it produced even and name
Antonius Imp."; also (ii. 136) with birds' milk (őre pépei kal ópviewy gára)”; which may the inscription ΑΝΤΩΝΙΟΣ ΑΥΤΟΚΡΑΤΩΡ ΤΡΙΤΟΝ be the origin of our “pigeon's milk” sent for the TPINN ANAPAN. The nose is Roman, and the tip pro- first day in April.
T. J. Buckton. jects downwards at an angle of twenty-five degrees, Wiltshire Road, Stockwell, S.W. whilst the chin is at a right angle to the perpendicular, leaving the mouth in a deep bay, as it is
PASSAGE IN “LUCRETIUS” (4th S. ii. 37.)-- In my viewed in profile, and well land-locked, as a sea- copy of Lucretius—that of Creech (“editio altera, man might say, by the promontories of nose and priori multo emendatior: Londini, M.DCC.XVII") — chin. The Ephesians were ill-advised in hailing the reading in the line referred to (lib. iv. p. 474) him as Bacchus, Xapıdótnu kal feiaíxiov, gracious is "retro,” as quoted by Montaigne, and not and courteous, as he proved himself to be more sese.” The
is as follows:ώμηστής και αγριώνιος, savage and severe. This was “ Hunc igitur contra mittam contendere causam, the year before he first met Cleopatra at Tarsus, Qui capite ipse suo instituit vestigia retrò.” when he was forty years of age. They should have saluted him as Hercules, a character he reference is made to the var. lec.
The following explanatory note is given, but no
sese": affected, claiming descent from that god, on better
“Hos duos versus omnes Codd. agnoscunt; suspectos grounds than Theodore from the Queen of Sheba.
tamen habet Lambinus, tandem verò legit, Thus,” says Plutarch, "when he appeared in public, he wore his vest girt on his hips, a large
• Hunc igitur contra quidnam contendere curem.' sword, and over all a coarse mantle,” seeking " to Alia est Fabri sententia, qui hæc habet: – Locus est confirm this opinion, by affecting to resemble luculentissimus; Qui manibus ingrediuntur, prono in Hercules in his air and his dress. Antony," he
terram capite, quod histrionum pueri vulgò faciunt, non
nisi retrò incedere possunt ; quod facile ad explicandam adds, “had a noble dignity of countenance, Lucretii sententiam transferre possis. Transferamus graceful length of beard, a large forehead, an aqui- igitur, et hæc sit sententia : Non est disputandum cum line nose (ypunótos Muxtapos), and, on the whole, illo qui omnia pervertit, quod novos Academicos fecisse the same manly aspect that we see in the pictures certum est.”” and statues of Hercules." The likeness attached
In his dedicatory preface, dated “Prid. Kal. to the Langhornes' translation, as well as one in Sept. An. 1694,” the editor (who in his address the Penny Cycl. (ii. 134), on the right hand of the “Ad Lectorem,” it may be added, superlatively one above described, cannot be that of Marc An- eulogises bis author as “Omnium poetarum Latitony, but is probably Julius Cæsar, according to
norum qui hodie extant, et qui ad nostram ætatem the inscription,“ Cæsar Imp.” Not only at Ephe- pervenerunt, elegantissimus et purissimus, idem
que gravissimus, atque ornatissimus,”) writes * Acts xiv, 12.