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that that right hon. Gentleman was the into a worse state than they were ever in only Member of the Cabinet who was before. The frequent murders that were not orthodox on the subject of land ; but committed there, and every letter they he hoped he had now satisfied him that received from Ireland, as well as the the right hon. Gentleman entertained no information of everyone that came over, sentiments detrimental to those rights of all gave a sad description of the state of property which they were all anxious the country. One noble Lord (Lond to respect.

Athlumney) said that the bad feeling EARL GRANVILLE desired to say, only existed in one or two districts of with reference to advice which had been the country. It was at its worst there, given to the noble Marquess (the Mar- he admitted; but the remarkable thing quess of Clanricarde), that if he post- was that the bad feeling that had always poned the measure with a view to fur- existed in those districts was spreading ther discussion on the matter, he could over the whole of the country. What was not encourage him in the hope that this founded on? It was founded on the there would be the slightest chance of belief of the tenants that it was the inthe Government altering the decision to tention of the Government to give up which it had come.

the land to them; for they said quite THE MARQUESS OF BATH said, their openly—“We brought this Government Lordships_had now heard comments in, we gave them a majority, and the least upon Mr. Bright's speeches, and an his- thing they can do for us is to give us the torical review from the time of the Duke land.” Now, it was most important for of Wellington ; they had also heard the Government at once to set this right, something of the Bill for the disestab- and let these misguided men know that lishment of the Irish Church, which there was no foundation for their exsatisfactorily proved to him that Lord pectations. If the Government did not Mayo's conduct last year had required accept the Bill of the noble Marquess, the Opposition to do something des- at least let them tell the country in what perate to outbid the then Government; way they intended to deal with the they had also heard recriminations be- question. The noble and learned Lord tween the present and the late Ministers, on the Woolsack talked of their waiting and taunts thrown out by the noble Earl in calmness and patience till the proper the Secretary for the Colonies and others time for legislation; but let him conthat the conduct of noble Lords on sider what was the case of those unforthis side of the House, when in Office, tunate persons the landlords of Ireland, was not very different from that pur- in which class there seemed to be comsued now. He (the Marquess of Bath) mitted a murder a week. He begged

a feared that these taunts were not alto- and entreated of the Government at once gether undeserved. He admitted that to give a sketch of the policy they ineach party had tampered with the ques- tended to pursue, in order to put an end tion; each had brought forward mea- to the proceedings of those wicked men sures which were never intended to pass, who were fomenting disloyalty throughfor the sake of gaining a Parliamentary out the land. triumph and catching a few votes in the THE EARL OF PORTARLINGTON House of Commons. But he wished to wished to say a few words on this quescall away the attention of the House tion. There were no doubt parts of the from this Leader or that, from the con- country that were in a state of partial duct of Governments either in expect- rebellion, and there were wicked men ancy or in possession, to the condition of everywhere; but he utterly repudiated those unfortunate persons in Ireland the notion that the bulk of the respectable whose lives were menaced, whose pro- tenantry of Ireland were only thinking of perty was threatened in the present how they might swindle their landlords state of the country; and on their behalf out of their property. Now, he would he appealed to Her Majesty's Govern- trace the discontent at present existment to make at once a full and imme- ing in Ireland to the proceedings of diate statement of their intentions with those bad men, who were always ready regard to this subject. The silence of to make use of any exciting circumthe Government was a primary cause of stances to forward their own “vile" the danger that threatened them—it was purposes. It was a remarkable thing this uncertainty that had brought matters that these outrages were confined to

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some particular districts in Ireland, and sation. The main feature of the measure he was glad to hear the noble Viscount concerned the law tenure of land, and state that they were repudiated by the that matter ought not to be mixed up at great body of the Irish people. He was all with the murderous outrages recently himself extensively concerned with the committed in Ireland. It was, however, management of Irish property, and he impossible to deny that the ignorant was well acquainted with other districts, part of the Irish people had been inand he did not believe that there was a duced to take up the notion that the single one of his own tenants, or upon occupation of land would give the right any of the estates he knew, that would of ownership, and that in a very short be guilty of such abominable murders as time there would have to be a transfer those they now heard of. It was extraor- of property. But his noble Friend the dinary and unaccountable that these out- Secretary for the Colonies had distinctly rages broke out in particular districts, declared that no measure that might be and in certain seasons, no matter what introduced by the Government would be Government was in. When the last subversive of the legal rights of proGovernment was in Office there was the perty, and he hoped that that statement dreadful murder of Mr. Featherston- would go forth through the length and haugh, and now there were other mur- breadth of Ireland, in order that it might ders. As to the measure before the in some degree dispel the delusion that House, he should be glad if it could be now possessed the minds of some of the adopted; but the noble Earl opposite Irish peasants. In regard to this measaid he was satisfied that the Govern- sure, he was willing to accept the proment would bring in a Bill next Session posal of the Government, that the Comwhich would please both sides of the mittee should be postponed till the 25th House; and that, he thought, ought to of May. satisfy the noble Marquess. With regard to the loyalty of the Irish people, drawn; and House to be in Committee

Motion (by leave of the House) withhe thought the reception Prince Arthur had received was a convincing proof of on Tuesday the 25th of May next. it. He had received a letter from a dis

PAROCHIAL SCHOOLS (SCOTLAND) BILL. tinguished friend of his in Tipperary, which stated that nothing could exceed the spontaneous loyalty of all classes of THE DUKE OF RICHMOND asked the the population.

Secretary of State for India, On what THE MARQUESS OF CLANRICARDE day he proposes to lay upon the Table said, he could not avoid expressing his the Amendments he purposes to make deep regret that, in the course of the in Committee on Parochial Schools evening, the debate should have con- (Scotland) Bill? It was desirable that tracted the tone of party that had marked the House should see those Amendments some portions of it. He protested with as little delay as possible. against the theory respecting the re- THE DUKE OF ARGYLL said, he sponsibility of the Government which wished the Bill, as it stood, to be taken had been adopted by his noble Friend as the basis of discussion ; but the the Secretary for the Colonies. His Amendments to which the noble Duke noble Friend appeared to think that if referred would be placed on the table of he succeeded in establishing a tu quoque the House in time to allow of ample case against the opposite party he had consideration before the discussion on done all that was required of him. By | the measure within a week of the all means let the members of the late time appointed for proceeding with Administration bear the whole of the the Bill. responsibility that properly belonged to LORD CAIRNS said, he had always them; but, whatever might have been understood that when the Government the conduct of past Governments, the prepared Amendments to a measure, present Government were alone respon- they placed them as soon as possible on sible for the present tranquillity of Ire- the Notice Paper of the House, so that land. He had noticed with pleasure those who considered the Bill might unthat the only part of his Bill to which derstand how far it was modified by the his noble Friend had taken objection Amendments. It was quite obvious that was that which had reference to compen- the Bill was not in the shape in which

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Act, nominated.
PUBLIC BILLS Resolution reported Church
Temporalities (Ireland) Commissioners [Ad-
vances].

Second Reading - (£17,100,000)' Consolidated
Fund; Merchant Shipping (Colonial) * [91];
Colonial Prisoners Removal* [92].
Committee-Irish Church [27]-R.P.

THE DUKE OF ARGYLL said, he had never admitted that the Amendments he was prepared to adopt were so extensive as to make the Bill practically a new Bill on the contrary, it would be sub-Committee-Report-Naval Stores [88]; Bankstantially the same Bill; and if it was ruptcy [50-97]; Imprisonment for Debt [61-98]. to be discussed by parties out-of-doors Third Reading-Newspapers, &c. [66]; Court he wished that the Bill, as now drafted, of Common Pleas (County Palatine of Lanshould be the basis of discussion. caster)* [26], and passed.

LORD CAIRNS hoped it would be understood in Scotland that the Government were prepared with Amendments, and would not produce them.

COURTS OF LAW COMMISSION (SCOT

LAND).-QUESTION.

ARMY-LUNATICS-MURDER OF SER

JEANT BARNES.-QUESTION.

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MR. P. A. TAYLOR said, he would beg to ask the Secretary of State for War, Whether his attention has been called to the murder, in the Barracks of the Royal Engineers at Dover, of one THE EARL OF MINTO asked the Go-Serjeant Barnes (a native of Leicester) vernment, What arrangements have been by a comrade whose insanity was proved made for printing and distributing, from by many witnesses, one of whom, Bentime to time, the evidence taken before jamin Batten, a sapper in the same the Courts of Law Commission (Scot- regiment, deposed to the fact in these land)? The Scotch Law Commission held its first sitting on the 5th of December, 1868; and on the 31st of December it had already held thirteen sittings, and had received a mass of evidence sufficient to fill 350 pages of an ordinary blue book of the octavo size with closely printed matter; but nothing was distributed to Members of Parliament or Peers till Friday, the 16th of April. It would be well that, in future, the evidence should be printed, if possible, at quicker intervals.

THE EARL OF MORLEY said, that the amount of evidence taken since the last publication was so small, only three witnesses having been examined, that it had not been thought worth while to embody it in a Report.

ADJUTANTS (JURY) EXEMPTION BILL [H.L.]
A Bill to exempt Adjutants from liability to
serve on Juries-Was presented by The Lord
STRATHEDEN; read 1a. (No. 75.)

House adjourned at half past Eight
o'clock, till To-morrow, half
past Ten o'clock.

"Ilis conduct this last six months has been so

strange that I have been frightened out of my life the whole time he has been out of hospital" (where he was placed as a lunatic). "I have lain awake for hours for fear of what he would do. It was not safe to be in the room with him. He was just like it when he came out the first time. lle had been sent to the hospital several times, but the doctor has refused to take him in. This has happened lately. I believe he had no more intention to shoot Barnes than anyone else,” &c. Whether he does not think there was neglect on the part of some one, in allowing such a man to be at large, especially with access to arms and ammunition; and, whether he will not issue regulations calculated to prevent such a catastrophe in future?

MR. CARDWELL, in reply, said, it was true that the sapper to whom reference had been made was long supposed by his officers and comrades to be suffering under insanity; that he had been fifty-three days in hospital within the last few months, but that he had been discharged by the surgeon under the impression that he was sane, and he afterwards discharged his duties with perfect regularity. However, he was

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bound to say that, after communicating ance; there was a strong reason why with the Director General, neglect might they should give their most careful be justly imputed to the surgeon, and and respectful attention to this question. the Director General had been directed The hon. Member, however, would not to communicate officially with him. be surprised when he told him that,

during the four or five months that ARMY-CONCENTRATION OF ARMY had elapsed since they were in Office, it OFFICES.-QUESTION.

had not been in their power to deal with Mr. R. SHAW said, he would beg to this kind of question, and to give it that ask the Secretary of State for War,

attention which was required both by its Whether the rumoured purchase of own importance, and by the unusual chaDover House by Her Majesty's Govern- racter of the measures which it was pro

He could only, therefore, ment is correct; and, if so, what are the posed to take. objects for which such purchase has been that, at the earliest period which it was

, made ?

Mr. CARDWELL said, in reply, that in their power, they would give that careit was not true that the lease of Dover

ful consideration to the subject which its House had been purchased by the Crown. importance deserved; though it would be But, on the matter to which he under- wrong, for hon. Gentlemen to anticipate stood his hon. Friend's Question pointed, from the colour of his answer what the he had to say that the best mode of result of that consideration would be. placing the War Department and the Horse Guards under the same roof was

INDIA-ACCOUNTS.-QUESTION. now under the careful consideration of the Government.

Mr. E.T. HAMILTON said, he wished

to ask the Under Secretary of State for IRELAND-PURCHASE OF RAILWAYS.

India, Whether he is aware that considerable dissatisfaction exists in India at

the want of detail in the Accounts of the MR. W. ORMSBY GORE said, he Home Charges; whether the Accounts wished to ask the Chief Secretary for of these Charges as laid before ParliaIreland, If he is in a position to say ment are circulated by the Indian Gowhether the Government is aware of vernment for the information of the pubthe general wish of the Irish Repre- lic in India ; and, whether any represensentatives upon the question of the Rail. tations requesting further detail have ways in Ireland, and is prepared to been made to the Secretary of State by deal with that question in accordance the Indian Government ? with that wish ?

MR. GRANT DUFF said, in reply to MR. GLADSTONE said, the Govern- his hon. Friend's third Question, he had ment was aware of the general wish ex- to state that no representations requestpressed—not only by the Irish Repre- ing further detail had been made to the sentatives but also by many Peers and Secretary of State by the Indian Governother persons of great weight and im- ment. În reply to his second Question portance on the question of the rail- he had to say that the accounts of these ways of Ireland, that the Government charges, as laid before Parliament, were would introduce a measure on the basis published at full length in the Gazette of of the Report of the Irish Railway Com- India for the information of the public mission. He presumed, however, that in India. In reply to his first Question, the Question of the hon. Gentleman in- he believed some dissatisfaction did exist cluded generally the intention of the Go- in India at the supposed want of detail vernment with regard to Irish railways; in the accounts of the home charges, because, though the second Report on but that dissatisfaction, so far as he could the Irish railways indicated one way of discover, was founded simply upon a misdealing with them, yet there might pos- conception with regard to the amount of sibly be other methods of dealing with the information which was now laid bethem which would be equally efficient. fore the public. At the same time, if the However, he had to say this, that they Indian Government had reason to think were aware of the desire entertained that the Indian public really wanted by the Representatives of Ireland, and further information about the home by persons of great weight and import- charges, they could, of course, give it; but, if it did, its appetite for figures Whether he is aware that the Metromust, he thought, be preternatural. politan District Railway is worked by

the Metropolitan Railway Company, THE BRITISH MUSEUM-TIIE TEMPLE forming together one continuous system;

COLLECTION.-QUESTION. and, if so, whether his attention has MR. W. LOWTHER said, he would been drawn to the consequences of the beg to ask the hon. Member for the late legislation in reference to smoking University of Cambridge, Why the collec- upon the said lines, whereby passengers, tion of works of art, &c., in the British with the right of smoking in certain comMuseum, known as “The Temple Col-partments on the Metropolitan District lection,” no longer exists under that Railway, will be required, when travelname, and whether some means could ling over any section of the line owned not be taken for keeping that collection by the Metropolitan Company to abstain together, or having the separate objects from smoking until they again come marked as having belonged to the late upon the District Company's property ? Sir William Temple ?

MR. BRIGHT: I am sure, Sir, that MR. WALPOLE said, he would en

the House will be tired of hearing this deavour to explain the facts of the case question. I know, of course, that the with reference to "The Temple Collec- legislation of this House respecting the tion," and he believed the hon. Gentle- two lines is in conflict, but the Board of man would find that the Trustees of the Trade cannot undertake to settle everyBritish Museum had done everything thing, and I think the question of cigars to satisfy him and the public. " The may be left to the Directors of the two Temple Collection”

was left to the companies to settle, even after the legisMuseum some years ago, and for some

lation to which the House has agreed. time the collection was kept together as a whole, that it might be seen at one time; INDIA-BANDA AND KIRWEE PRIZE but since then other works of art of a

MONEY.-QUESTION. similar nature had been given to the Mr. O'REILLY said, he would beg Museum or purchased by them, and it to ask the Secretary of State for War, was then thought better to intermix If he can state why seven men of the them, so that objects of a similar cha- 5th Battery, 17th Brigade, Royal Arracter might be seen together. A de- tillery (formerly A Company, 4th Batscriptive catalogue of the collection had talion, Madras Artillery), now stationed been, however, ordered to be made, and all at Dover Castle, who are entitled to a the articles, or at least the more material share of the Banda and Kirwee prize of them, would have labels which would

money, have not yet received it ? show every article that had come from MR. GRANT DUFF said, in reply, “The Temple Collection."

that the delay had occurred because the

Indian Government was assured by the GRAVESEND COUNTY COURT.

Government of Madras that this money

had been paid in India to the officer SIR CHARLES WINGFIELD said, commanding the battery to which these he would beg to ask the Secretary of men belong. There was, however, eviState for the Home Department, When dently some mistake, as that officer deit is intended to commence the con- nied that he had ever received it. The struction of the County Court House at Government of Madras had been asked Gravesend, as the site for this building to make a strict investigation into the was purchased two years ago ?

facts, and he trusted soon to have the MR. AYRTON said, in reply, that a mistake set right. sum was placed in the Estimates of the present year for this building, and if it INDIA-MUSCAT AND ZANZIBAR. were voted by the House, the building

QUESTION. would be commenced at once.

SIR STAFFORD NORTHCOTE said,

he wished to ask the Under Secretary SMOKING ON METROPOLITAN RAIL- of State for India, Whether any arrangeWAYS.- QUESTION,

ment has been come to by the GovernMr. CADOGAN said, he wished to ment of India with reference to the disask the President of the Board of Trade, putes between the rulers of Muscat and

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