church has assumed touching the presidency, the doctrines of the church, etc.

"To some of these questions Bro. E. C. Briggs replied. To some we replied. The answers to some were satisfactory to the questioners, to others they dissented. On the whole they expressed themselves not satisfied with our reasoning, though they could not complain of the treatment which they received."-The Saints' Herald, vol. 15, pp. 366, 367.

On June 22, Elder E. C. Brand was at Austin, Nevada, on his way to Utah, and was to baptize some.

On June 23, Elders A. H. and D. H. Smith were at Council Bluffs, preparing for their journey west.

CHAPTER 29.

1869.

WORDS OF CHEER-A MOB-INTERVIEW WITH B YOUNG-NEWS SUMMARY-FALL RIVER MONITOR-SCOTLAND-FROM THE WEST -PROGRESS AND PROSPECTS-FASTING AND PRAYER-A CHALLENGE SEMIANNUAL CONFERENCE UTAH CONFERENCE PACIFIC SLOPE CONFERENCE-BRIGGS RETURNS-ELLS EDITOR WALES CONFERENCE-SCATHING DENUNCIATION — ITEMS

GODBE MOVEMENT.

PRESIDENT JOSEPH SMITH, on July 1, 1869, published the following word of cheer concerning the work:

Word of cheer.

"The Lord is being good to scattered Israel. Her borders are strengthening, and her watching and waiting hosts begin to think that they must also work. "The auspices of the Herald Office are very flattering, and new hopes are excited by the success of the past. . . .

"As we were anticipating, a much more active work is being done in the ministry this year than last, and its results are quite visible in the aroused energy to be found among the saints.

"A far better spirit is being fostered in places where hitherto a great deal of misunderstanding has existed. Some who have been idle and consequently cold, are now showing fruits meet for repentance and taking hold anew. May the peace which comes from the consciousness of duty performed attend these."-The Saints' Herald, vol. 16, p. 16. Elder Josiah Ells wrote from London, England, July 2, that a mob had waited on them the Sunday night before,

A mob.

thinking they were polygamists; but upon learning their mistake some of them asked the privilege of coming to hear and promised orderly behavior. Such characters should hear the truth preached until they learn that mobbing even a polygamist is despicable.

July 4, Elder E. C. Brand arrived in Salt Lake City.

The following letters from Elder A. H. Smith, giving an account of an interview with President Brigham with B. Young. Young, will be read with interest and profit:

Interview

"SALT LAKE CITY, July 18, 1869.

"I have had many trials in my short life, of my powers of control over my passionate temper; but never in my short life did I have need of strength more than I did yesterday.

"David gave you an account of our trip and arrival. We met many who were anxious to see us and hear us, and asked us if we were going to speak in the Tabernacle. We of course did not know, but were desirous of so doing; and to leave no stone unturned in our favor, David, myself, John Smith, Samuel Smith, George A. Smith, and John Henry Smith, (George A.'s son,) called on President Young yesterday morning, and I plainly stated our mission, and asked for the use of the Tabernacle to speak to this people.

"My statement that we differed from them in principles and points of doctrine called forth some questions, all of which I endeavored to answer in calmness, with respect and courtesy to all present. President Young then favored us with an account of how the marriage ceremony became inserted in the Book of Covenants, directly in opposition to all father could say on the matter. I told him we did not come to argue the matter there; that our reasons for differ. ing were many-and among them, the fact that the princi ple he was endeavoring to sustain was contrary to all the former revelations of God, and that, in this view of the matter, we could not accept the testimony of any man or set of men that came in opposition to God's holy words in the Book of Covenants and Book of Mormon.

"Brigham then took me to task about what I had said in the garden three years ago, and denied that the Twelve ever did anything to embarrass mother in any way; but, to the contrary, that they had done everything in their power to help her in her time of trouble. I, of course, differed with him, and told him so; and then he called mother 'a liar, yes, the damnedest liar that lives,' said that she tried to poison father, that she stole Uncle Hyrum's portrait and large ring.

"He also said many other things, too numerous to mention. I cannot write all that was said. George Q. Cannon, John Taylor, Joseph F. Smith, Daniel Wells, Joseph Young, Phineas Young, Brigham Young, Jun., and several others, besides those who went with us, were present at the interview. At the close, Young shook hands with us, and wished us God's blessing in all righteous and good works, positively refusing to let us have the use of the Tabernacle.

"He said we had not the spirit of our father; but we possessed the spirit of our mother-that we had not God enough to make us a name, or to bring upon us any persecution. We told him that as to the persecution, we were thankful we had none seriously; as to the name, time, that was said to prove all things, would prove whether this were so or not.

"After our interview, we returned to John's, and I vented my anger in biting my food and swallowing it; but was nervous all the rest of the day, perhaps from indigestion, as it did not set well on my stomach.

"Yesterday we went to see, and made the acquaintance of, the Governor of Utah; reported our mission to him, and desired the territorial authorities to take cognizance of our presence. We had a very pleasant visit with Governor Durkee.

"After this visit we made the acquaintance of the Walker Brothers, thought to be the richest firm in the city, who treated us with great kindness and promised to secure a hall for us. We also had quite a long conversation with Mr. Stenhouse.

"And now let me say, in leaving the presence of Mr. Young, I took the responsibility of asking him or any of his elders to call on you in their tours eastward, and guaranteed they would have extended to them the courtesy of the meetinghouse, by asking for it, and I gave a special request for Brigham Young, from you, to call and preach in our meetinghouse.

We have seen but few of our faith. We took supper at Sister Thimblebey's last evening, and the house she lives in

will be our headquarters in this city. A Brother Horlick owns and also lives in the house.

"Bro. Brand has gone south; we have not seen him vet.

"We wish we had some tracts on the gospel; and I would be glad if we had more of the 'Address' to give away. have plenty on hand now; but I give them freely to those who never have read them, on their promise to read them. I can send them into families where I will not be permitted to go myself, nor will the female portion of the families be permitted to attend our meetings, the males themselves not daring to go.

"Stenhouse made some remarks concerning the office; I told him we worked by steam, and we intended to flood this country with tracts.

"This day we hold a meeting in the seventh ward, at the house of Bro. Horlick.

"GREAT SALT LAKE CITY, July 21, 1869. "David and I have fairly entered on our mission, and everywhere we go we are received in kindness. We make it a distinctive feature of our converse to establish the object of our mission, except at the house of Cousin Joseph, and there the subject of religion has not been broached at all, in our presence. The show for the saints to remain here is very slim, I assure you. We are indebted to the Walker Brothers for assistance in procuring Independence Hall. We speak there next Sunday at two p. m.

"We spoke in a private house last Sunday afternoon, and the house was crowded. There is a good feeling among our people here now, and more freedom of speech than there was three years ago. Yet many scarcely dare say their soul is their own. I wish I had more of the Address to the Saints in Utah; but I do not see how I am to get them. I fear that, should it be known what they are in the post office, I might never get them. Send the Herald as soon as possible.

"I have seen Governor Durkee, also Judge Strickland, ard have their assurance of protection by the civil authorities;