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I simply cannot get over the unusualness of "The End Times Passover" by knowledgeable and influential author Joe Ortiz. And I say that having read many of the best known Bible prophecy books in circulation such as the ones by Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, Grant Jeffrey, Chuck Missler, Todd Strandberg, Jack Van Impe, John Hagee, and Jimmy Swaggart.
But the eight names I just listed all have one thing in common. Whether they realize it or not, they have built their reputations on the backs of various schemers-turned-"scholars" who wittingly and even unwittingly had a hand in furthering an extremely questionable apocalyptic movement that had its birth and early development among tiny, eccentric groups in Britain during the early 1800s.
Whenever anyone looks into the writings of the above "Gang of Eight" (for want of a better term), he can easily conclude that the same writings are more valuable for style than substance.
For example, the late Dr. John Walvoord (the long-time president of Dallas Theological Seminary who was viewed as the most knowledgeable pretribulationist on earth) claimed in several of his writings that there are four distinct and contradictory schools of thought within posttribulationism - a "discovery" which somehow had escaped all other theological scholars.
Walvoord asserted that the four posttrib divisions are "classic," "semiclassic," "futurist," or "dispensational."
He stated that "classic" posttribs believe in "any day" imminency, a nonliteral tribulation, and a literal millennium. But he also managed to find the same three views in the "semiclassic" group!
When looking at the semiclassic division, he discovered some who see a future tribulation. But he also saw the same futurism in three of the four groups - even though only one of them is labeled "futurist"!
Walvoord remarked that his third ("futurist") group is noted for belief in a literal future tribulation and a literal millennium, adding that it doesn't embrace "any day" imminency.
But his fourth ("dispensational") category has the same non-imminency! Moreover, tribulational futurism is found in all groups except the first one, and he admitted that a literal millennium is in all four divisions!
After his so-called discovery appeared in print, there were those who viewed it as a classic example of "distinctions without a difference" - all the more noticeable in light of the easily proven fact that pretribulationism itself has long been characterized by disagreements among its followers including infighting over its main points and subpoints! (The chapter entitled "A House Divided" in Dave MacPherson's book "The Incredible Cover-Up" is stunning proof of this.)
Joe Ortiz' volume "The End Times Passover," on the other hand, is not only a breath of fresh air in contrast to pretribulationism's frothiness and unscholarliness but it is also immensely informative and readable. And the Ortiz work is a view of the future that readers of prophecy can count on - an end times view that is as orthodox and old as Christianity itself!
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Everyone has heard of the "any-moment pretribulation rapture" which many shorten to just the "rapture." It refers to the return of Christ that's supposed to happen before the return of Christ! Rapturists don't exactly express it this way because they don't want folks to know how confusing (some would say "devious") their 19th century system of "dispensationalism" (the key feature of which is the "rapture") really is. Well, is it confusing or devious? Let's analyze one of their favorite Bible passages and you can decide. They quote "caught up together...to meet the Lord in the air" (I Thess. 4:17) and claim it will occur BEFORE the future tribulation. But they invariably ignore following verses where Paul reveals WHEN ("the times and the seasons") it really happens; he ties it to the "day of the Lord" when "sudden destruction" happens! If this destruction happens before, or even during, the tribulation, who would be left to serve the Antichrist? Confusing or devious? They also claim that the "twinkling of an eye" rapture (I Cor. 15:52) is pretrib but purposely ignore that when "immortality" is fulfilled in that instant, "Death" will be "swallowed up" (vs. 54) - a paraphrase of a posttrib event in Isa. 25:8! How can death be ended before, or even during, the worst time of death ever? Are they confusing or devious? You can decide if you obtain two prophecy books by Joe Ortiz that are highly endorsed theological masterpieces. Their titles: "The End Times Passover" and "Christians Will Suffer 'Great Tribulation.'" Both are the wave of the future that can be yours right now if you look up Author House on the internet. It's that easy. And that important. And neither book is confusing or devious! Dave MacPherson (author of "The Rapture Plot")