would not have the Infallibility trusted with the Pope, but lodge it in a General Council, as Superior to the Pope, with Power to Reform and even to Depofe him: A Third Party approve of neither of thefe ways, for as they think the Pope alone without a Council, not to be Infallible, fo neither the Council without the Pope, who is the Head of it, and without whom there cannot be a Lawful Council, as not a Parliament without the King, these are for King and Parliament, and place the Supremacy and Infallibility in neither Pope nor Council apart, but only when both together and agreeing; but because this will Defeat feveral of thofe Councils called General, and fplit others, as when the Pope or his Legats withdrew from the Council (like a King leaving his Parliament) then fuch was no longer a Lawful Council, but a Schifmatical Conventicle, as was faid of the Councils of Conftance and Bafil, &c. and be cause there have been Popes against Popes, and Councils against Councils; and that the Requifits neceffary to Conftitute a Lawful Council and confequently Infallible, or fome of them Difputed, as the Authority of Summoning and Convening the Council, and Prefiding in it; and other Requifites, allowed by all to be Neceffary, are Impoffible to be known with any Certainty, as, That all the Fathers there met fhould use all Diligence to Examine and Canvass to the bottom every Point that comes before them; and that

they should be under no Terror or Fear of any, nor Byaffed by Party, hopes of Preferment or Gain, or any other Corrupt Paffion, but doing all things out of true Zeal to the Glory of God, and good of the Church; otherwise that there is no Infallibility follows that Council; and this being Impoffible for any to know but God alone, confequently the Infallibility of all Councils is rendered Precarious, and no Certainty at all' in them; or rather it is Certain, by the Hiftories of all General Councils, that these Humane Paffions, not Confiftent with Infallibility, had an Influence in all or most of them; fo that we cannot be Certain of the Infallibility of any Coun cil, unless we are Infallibly Sure that none of these Humane Paffions had a Mixture in it: This makes a Fourth Party in the Church of Rome, that is, of thofe who place the Infallibility neither in Pope nor Council, Jointly or Severally, but in the Church Militant, as they speak, that is, the Church Diffusive, or all Churches up and down the World. We must then Travel and Learn. Here is a wide Mark, and we are plainly left at last to our own private Fudgment, to Collect and Compare, to Approve or Reject what we find Scattered in all the Distant Churches upon Earth. And no Man's Life or Capacity will be Sufficient to make the Inquiry, in any tollerable Measure.

And now, My Lord, which of these Four Sorts of Infallibility will you take? There are Three

Three to One against you, choose which you will. And all these are of the Church of Rome. And what Difference is ther betwixt having no Guide, or one you cannot find?

L. If I cannot find him, I have him not; and that is all one as to have None.

Miferable Man! If he has no Infallible Guide, and is Fallible himself; and yet upon his going Right depends his Eternal either Happiness or Mifery.

(24.) G. You may as well find fault with the Creation. Shall the Clay fay to the Potter, why hast thou made me thus? Who was Guide to the Angels that fell? Who was Guide to Adam? Who was, or who is, Guide to all the Earth? To the Heathens, to Mahometans, to Jews? These last stick to their Church, as an Infallible Guide, and therefore are most Obftinate, and the most Inveterate Enemies to Christianity. Who is Guide to Infants and to Idiots? And fhall we Interrogate the Almighty what he will do with these, or why He Created them? And perhaps the greatest Part of Mankind Die before they come to the Years of Difcretion: And when they are of Age, how few are Capable to Judge, or have Opportunity or Capacity to Examine the different Pleas betwixt Church and Church, Religion and Religion? And do we not fee the Generality of the World take up their Church and Religion juft according to their Education?

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Education? My Lord, if you and I had been Born and Bred in Turky, We might have been Mahometans.

L. Is Religion then nothing but a Chance, according to the Place we are Born in or where we receive our Education?

G. No, My Lord, Truth is Truth, though

the World fhould depart from it. And

have been Converts in all Nations and Religions. But none where Men cannot be perfuaded to overcome the Prejudice of Education, and Examine Impartially for themfelves. But Infallibility barrs all Examination, for that Implies a Doubt, and brings us to private Fudgment, and where then fhall we Wander? And yet you mult apply to every Man's private Judgment when you would make him a Convert to your Church, why elle do you Argue or Reafon with him? Muft he not then Examine all the Arguments and Motives you give him for the Infallibility of your Church, and Judge for himfelf whether they are well Grounded, and will bear the Teft of Reafon? Or must every body have Reafon and Examine but your felves? Believe. it then you are in the most Dangerous Condition of any. And you are the Men who receive your Religion by Chance, just according to your Education. Suppose another should Return your own Anfwer to you, and fay, I will not Examine, I am Infallibly Sure, and I will hear no more: What would you think of fuch a Man? Every Enthusiast ́will

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tell you the fame. He will take his Oath that he is Infallible! And will hear no more than the deaf Adder the Charms of Reafon; but he' will bid you Silence your Reafon, for that is it which blinds you, though Solomon calls it the Lamp of God, which He hath planted in our Heart, Prov. xx. 27. This is the Image of God in which He created us, and will be our Judge and Witness in the last Day, as it is given us for our Guide here. But instead of Trimming this Lamp, to make it burn clearly, we hear the General Cry from your Side, Put it out Put it out We cannot deal with you till that Lamp be Extinguished, it Thwarts us every Turn, and Starts a hundred Objections, that we cannot Believe peaceably for it. But when it is quite taken away (if that were poffible to be done) then you offer to fhew us a Meteor of Infallibility (about which your felves are not Agreed, nor know where to find it) which will keep us from ever Doubting any more. As when a Man's Eyes are put out, he cannot fee a Dirty Step or a Precipice before him, and then he is in that State of Security you propose.

L. You fee how this Guide of yours, this Lamp of Reason has mis-led the Nations; for Heathens, Mahometans, &c. all plead Reafon.

G. And we have no other Method with them than to Reafon on ftill with them, and Shew them that Reafon is of our Side. And vaft Multitudes of them have been thus Converted, even all the Chriftian Churches now in