records the entrance as a Pensioner, on November 1, 1802, of Charles Philips, then aged fifteen (the son of William Philips, of co. Sligo, "Publicani "), a Protestant, educated under Mr. Armstrong. DANIEL HIPWELL. 34, Myddelton Square, Clerkenwell. AMBROSE PHILIPS (7th S. x. 165, 233, 334, 414, 456).-Burns's lines, beginning "Beauteous rosebud, young and gay," addressed to "Miss Cruikshank, a very young lady," appear to have been not imitated from, but modelled on, Philips's "Timely blossom, infant fair." There is little resemblance in the ideas, but the rhythm of the two poems is exactly the same. At all events, considering the subject, the coincidence is curious. Of course I am not suggesting a charge of plagiarism against Burns. I love Burns too much to do that. Besides, there is no plagiarism in the matter. JONATHAN BOUCHIER. July, 1802. The sonnet was written that morning as he Prof. Knight goes on to give confirmation of his PROVERBIAL PHRASES IN BEAUMONT AND Small herbs have grace, great weeds do grow apace. 'King Richard III.,' II. iv. 13. F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY. THE WORKS OF THOMAS TAYLOR, THE PLATONIST (7th S. x. 345).-Neither MR. AXON nor MR. WHEELER mentions a statement I have several Palgrave, Diss. times seen made-that Thomas Taylor rendered much assistance to William Bridgman in his CURAÇOA OR CURAÇAO (7th S. x. 207, 376, 436). translation of the 'Paraphrase on the Nichoma--Perhaps I may be allowed to add to my former chean Ethics of Aristotle,' by Andronicus Rhodius, note that Peter Heylyn, in the second edition 1807, 4to. J. CUTHBERT WELCH, F.C.S. (1657) of his 'Cosmographie' (p. 1091), calls this The Brewery, Reading. island Curacaos, and gives no hint as to any change The Dutch took it 'BLACK EYES': SONNET (BY TENNYSON?) (7th having occurred in its name. S. x. 188, 333, 471).—Compare also Tom Moore's from the Spaniards in 1632. little poem, beginning : The brilliant black eye All its darts without caring who feels 'em ; Though it scatter wounds too, Liverpool. J. F. MANSERGH. CURIOUS MISNOMERS (7th S. x. 424).-The application of the phrase "the land of the leal" to Scotland was primarily an error of Mr. Gladstone's Is much better pleased when it heals 'em. own, and must not be charged to his admirers, The verses, me judice, have not much merit. I do except as an instance of that sincerest form of not, however, agree with one of the poet's critics-flattery, imitation. I forget when and where Mr. I think Mr. Leslie Stephen-that Moore is a poetaster. Some of his verse is very pretty. JONATHAN BOUCHIER. I am indebted to a friend for the following lines Je n'aime pas trop les grands yeux noirs WORDSWORTH'S SONNET COMPOSED UPON WESTMINSTER BRIDGE, SEPTEMBER 3RD, 1802 (7th S. x. 465).—It is surprising that Wordsworth himself never detected the discrepancy pointed out by ST. SWITHIN. Prof. Knight, in 'Wordsworth's Poetical Works,' ii. 287, thus sets the matter right: "The date which Wordsworth gave to this poem on its first publication in 1807, and which he retained in all subsequent editions of his works, is inaccurate. He left London for Dover on his way to Calais on the 30th of Gladstone so misapplied the term, but it was, I Come open your gates and let me gae free; I daurna stay longer in bonnie Dundee. 'Rob Roy' seems to have been published in 1817, while the well-known song "The bonnets o' bonnie Dundee" is to be found in 'The Doom of Devorgoil,' which does not appear to have been published till 1830. Mr. Gladstone may well have first met with the expression "Bonnie Dundee" in 'Rob Roy,' where it means the town. A. W. When I saw that Mr. Gladstone had spoken of "Bonnie Dundee " I the town of Dundee as thought, like MR. BAYNE, that Mr. Gladstone's Between Saint Johnstone and Bonny Dundee [See Index to Sixth Series, under Land of the Leal,' inSongs and Ballads."] "An ancient rowle of Sir William Brereton of Brereton saith thus: Not long after the Conquest William Bellward Lord of the moiety of Malpasse had 2 sonnes Dan David of Malpas surnamed le his eldest son, of whom is descended the Lord Dudley. Clerke, and Richard. Dan David had William de Malpas, His 2nd son was Philip Goch, whose eldest took the name of Egerton, a 3rd son, of Golborne and one of Richard, the other his sons the name of Goodman. son of William Belward, had 3 sons who took divers names, 1 Thomas de Cotgrave, 2 William de Owerton, Richard de Littler; who had 2 sonnes vizt: 1 Ken FRAMEWORK IN A GRAVE (7th S. x. 344, 432). Clarke, 2 John Richardson. Thus you see great alteraI do not think that any of the answers to this tions in names, in respect of places as Egerton. Cotquery quite meet the point. The framework was grave, Owerton, of colour as Goch, of quality as Goodevidently not a coffin, but a contrivance for prevent-man, of stature in Richard Littler, of learning in Ken ing the body-snatchers from committing their Clarke, and of the Fathers Christian name as Richarddepredations. The following extract from the son, all descending from William Bellwarde."" GEO. RUTTER FLETCHER. Quarterly Review, xxiii. (1820), 558, note, seems to furnish a better explanation :— 13, Clifford's Inn, E.C. "The iron cage, or frame, is a Scotch invention which JOHN SHEEHAN O'LEARY (7th S. x. 407, 431; we have lately seen at Glasgow, where it has been in use | xi. 11).—In my query of January 3 I am made to between two and three years. A framework of iron rods doubt, apparently, that O'Leary wrote "Whiskey, is fixed in the grave, the rods being as long as the grave drink divine." I did not say, I am certain, merely is deep. Within this frame the coffin is let down and buried. An iron cover is then placed over the grave and that it was "ascribed" to him, as though there fitted on the top of the rods and securely locked. At the were any question of the matter. He undoubtedly expiration of a month, when no further precaution is wrote it, and not John Sheehan. It is in his needful, the cover is unlocked and the frame drawn out. volume The Tribute,' published anonymously, The price paid for this apparatus is a shilling per day. and given in the British Museum as such. The This invention is not liable to the same objection as the iron coffins, and if it has not already reached London the song appeared in the scurrilous Cork Freeholder undertakers may thank us for a useful hint." while Sheehan was in his childhood, assuming Tribute' was published in Cork in 1833. The misthat the latter was born in 1813 or 1814. 'The take of MR. BENTLEY doubtless arose through his seeing the song with Latin translation (to which is appended Sheehan's name) in Dr. Doran's edition of the 'Bentley Ballads,' the original bearing no author's name. D. J. O. I suppose the apparatus answered its purpose, but I do not think that it would have formed any serious impediment in the way of that eminent professor Mr. Jerry Cruncher, whose exploits may be found chronicled in 'A Tale of Two Cities.' R. B. P. SURNAME EGERTON (7th S. x. 327, 417).-The two great Cheshire families of Egerton and Cholmondely both descend from one common ancestor, William le Belward, who was Baron of Malpas, under the Norman Earls Palatine of that county. David de Malpas, surnamed Le Clerk, eldest son of William le Belward, was grandfather of David, who assumed the name of Egerton from the lordship of Egerton, in Cheshire, which he had inherited. His descendant in the twelfth degree, Rowland Egerton, of Egerton and Oulton, was created a baronet April 15, 1617, and was ancestor divine." What I should have said was that John Sheehan was the author of the Latin rendering of that famous song, beginning, Vitæ Ros divine ! Upton, Slough. Palmam Vino daret? GEORGE BENTLEY. MR. SCROPE'S statement that William John O'Connell, who stood for Tom Costigan, was a cousin of the "Liberator," is incorrect. William John O'Connell, known to his countrymen by the nickname of “Lord Kilmallock," was the illegitimate son of an O'Connell of Kilmallock, co. Limerick. Charles O'Connell, brother of "Lord Kilmallock's" father, married a sister of General Sir Maurice O'Connell, who was a distant cousin of the "Liberator." Thus, and thus alone, were the O'Connells of Kilmallock connected with the O'Connells of Darrinane. Ross O'Connell. Garrick Club, W.C. MR. SCROPE says that "Ingoldsby" Barham was a Canon of St. Paul's. He was a Minor Canon, but never a Canon. T. ADOLPHUS TROLLOPE. DAB (7th S. x. 46, 133, 195).—The following 'Vade Mecum for Malt-worms,' circa 1720, and sharpened about every ten days. A flour mill in Birmingham occupies three men exclusively in "sharpening" the stones. ION. Birmingham. The grindstone mentioned in Costello's 'Tour' is apparently a stone for grinding grain, i.e. a millstone, and not for grinding tools. What is meant by "whetting" the stone is no doubt the recutting of the radial grooves on the face of the stone when obliterated by wear-a process usually called dressing the stone. W. D. GAINSFORD. The term was used to describe a light luncheon formerly given by the mayors here after church, the officer (sergeant at mace) going to the houses of corporators early in the morning, and saying, “Mr. Mayor gives a whet to-day after church, when he hopes you will attend." Was this to sharpen the aldermen's appetites for their dinners? F. DANBY Palmer. WROTH FAMILY (ESSEX) (7th S. x. 487).—I am This word recalls to mind Sir G. O. Trevelyan's afraid that, unless he have other corroborative lines in 'Horace at Athens': And this is Balbus, cleverest of dabs To WHET (7th S. x. 507).-It is difficult to conceive under what circumstances a grindstone could require whetting, and how it was done. What the miller would want would be to have his millstone dressed. Particulars of this process are given in most technical dictionaries. L. L. K. It is only when applied to a mill-stone that this expression is correct. The surface of a mill-stone is cut in grooves, the edges of which must be kept sharp by occcasional dressing with a pick. This operation is termed in Dutch "billen den molensteen"; in Latin, as rendered by Kilian, "acuere lapidem molarem" (literally, to whet the millstone), "lapidis molaris sulcos excudendo exasperare." H. WEDGWOOD. 94, Gower Street. Whetting a grindstone is synonymous with sharpening it. Both upper and lower millstones on their grinding surfaces are grooved, or corrugated. If it were not so the corn would be mashed instead of pulverized. The wear upon the stones is such that the grooves require to be deepened testimony within his reach, W. C. W. will find the different members of the Wroth family who bore the name of John a little difficult of identification. This name and that of Henry occur frequently in the pedigree. Sir Robert Wroth, of Loughton, Knt., in his will, dated March 2, 1613/14, constitutes his uncle John Wroth, of Petherton Park, co. Somerset, his brother John Wroth, Esq., and his cousin John Wroth, of London, Gent., the three trustees of his will. Here we have three of the name at once in close contemporaneous relationship. The will of Sir Robert Wroth was proved June 3, 1614. He had surviving brothers named John and Henry, who were still in their minority at the end of the year 1605, as we learn from the will of their father, Sir Robert Wroth the elder, Knt., of Durants, or Durance, Enfield. It is possible they were the John and Henry of query 2. Henry, the second son of the younger Sir Robert, afterwards Sir Henry Wroth, distinguished on the royal side during the Civil War, married Anne, daughter of William, Lord Maynard. His daughter Jane married William Henry de Zulestein, created May 10, 1695, Baron Enfield, Viscount Tunbridge, and Earl of Rochford. Elizabeth, another daughter of Lord Maynard, married John Wroth, Esq., of 2. John Wroth, of Loughton. He may have been the son of the above, mentioned by Robinson ('History of Enfield,' vol. i. p. 147). by Bishop Potter, of Oxford, September 19, 1725 (Chalmers's Biographical Dictionary'). I may remind MR. OVERTON that by Canon 33 the title of a Fellowship includes the right to such. Possibly, as Wesley was elected Fellow March 17, 1726 (Chalmers), he may when ordained have been a Probationer-Fellow. Or there is yet another possibility-that the bishop himself may have undertaken to provide a title. This too is allowed by the Canon. A further question occurs. Wesley was born age when ordained, and search ought to be made June 17, 1703 (Chalmers). He was, then, under for the faculty which should have been granted him. It is true that Chalmers adds to his date the letters "O.S."; but since the date is not between January 1 and March 25, the question of style cannot here apply to the year. Longford, Coventry. C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. In Mr. Tyerman's admirable Life of Wesley' the date of his ordination is given as September 19, 4. John Wroth, son of Henry, perhaps was a 1725, when, by the way, he was under twentygrandson of Sir Henry, but it is not at all clear-three years of age. Nothing is said there as to in fact, the pedigree and account of the family in the above-named works do not agree in many places. Robinson refers to the pedigree of the Wroths, Harl. MSS., and though it is imperfect, still it might be worth consulting. What is W. C. W.'s authority for saying that the first John Wroth about whom he inquires "divorced his first wife"? H. G. GRIFFINHOOFE. 34, St. Petersburg Place, W. ROBERT HOLMES (7th S. x. 188). Robert Holmes was probably a son of Sir Robert Holmes, who was Governor of the Isle of Wight from 1667 to 1692. This Sir Robert Holmes was an Irish soldier of fortune, born at Mallow, co. Cork, who, after the Restoration, became a naval officer, and attained an evil repute as the "cursed beginner of the two Dutch wars.' Some further interesting particulars respecting him and his descendants, as also the curious story of his statue in the church at Yarmouth, I. W., will be found in 'A Guide to the Isle of Wight,' by the Rev. E. Venables (London, E. Stanford, 1860), at which date the then representative of the family was the Hon. Mrs. A. Court Holmes, of Westover, daughter of Sir Leonard Worsley Holmes, in whom the baronetcy became extinct. Several representatives of the Holmes family of Mallow are, I believe, still living, one of whom, a Mr. Robert Holmes, resided till of late at Queenstown, co. Cork. Southampton. JAS. COLEMAN. JOHN WESLEY (7th S. x. 467; xi. 11).-Cannot John Wesley's title for orders be ascertained from the bishop's registry? He was ordained deacon any "title"; but it is stated that his father "wrote to the Bishop of Lincoln in his favour" shortly before the ordination. In August, 1727, Wesley became curate of Epworth and Wroote. On September 22, 1728, he was ordained priest at Oxford by Bishop Potter. Hastings. EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A. OLD CHRISTMAS DAY (7th S. x. 483).—See BATTLE OF THE BOYNE (7th S. x. 149, 229, 292, 454).-In my possession is a fine engraving of this battle, measuring 24 in. by 16 in., in which the figures are very well executed, but the horses are rather stiff and woodenish in the joints, not at all such as Sir Edwin Landseer would have painted. The prominent figure is that of William III., sword in hand and wearing a steel cuirass, who is riding through the river, and in the foreground several officers are carrying the Duke of Schomberg, who has just received his mortal wound. Underneath is inscribed :: "To his Royal Highness George Prince of Wales. Immediately below the engraving is on one side, the repeal of statute "5 & 6 Will. IV., c. 64...... MEN OF MARSHAM (7th S. x. 189, 357, 454, 518). Surely the term "Mareham " in the Lincolnshire names 66 Mareham-le-Fen" and "Mareham-on-the-Hill" is but " Mere-ham," and has no reference to marsh. Every Lincolnshire man knows that "marsh" and "fen" are antithetical expressions-the former denoting a salt-water swamp, as opposed to a fen, or fresh-water swamp. So that the term "Marsh-on-the-Fen" would be even more paradoxical than "Marsh-on-the-Hill." "BUT AND BEN (7th S. viii. 425, 515; ix. 57, A mere or pond would occur as readily on the 95, 155, 198).-Barbour, in one of his legends (see hill as near to the fen. The village of Mareham-Legendensammlung,' ed. by Horstmann, 1881, le-Fen is not actually in the fen, only near it. vol. i. p. 87), uses this phrase, W. D. GAINSFORD. Forthi the tempil of syk mene Wes fillit ful, but and bene. HOXTON, CO. MIDDLESEX (7th S. x. 405). I hazard an opinion which perhaps differs Though, as I shall show, the extract from the from some before expressed. I believe that in Commons' Journal does not throw new light upon "but and ben" we have a perfect parallel in sense the origin of this name, it is valuable as an addition and etymology with the words "without and to the history of another manor in the same within." county. Hoxton was in 1352-53 considered to is formed by the particle be (as in before, behind, The only difference is that the one pair be within the parish of Hackney, when John beside), and the other by with-prefixed, in each Asphale leased his manor of Hoggeston in Hack-case, to out and in. ney to Thomas Harwold (Cl. 26 Edward III., genden.,' i. 150) splits up bene in the line— Barbour himself ("Lem. 21-23 d). In 1485, after the death of John Philpot, it was called "Manorium de Hoggesdon (Inquisition post mort. 2 Richard III., No. 26 a). Vide Robinson's History of Hackney,' vol. i. pp. 154 and 321-2. In Henry VIII.'s time the name had become Hogsden, and it was so called by Ben Jonson and other writers (see 'The Northern Heights of London,' p. 450 and p. 456). These are all examples before 1641. "The manor of Hogston, alias Hedgstowne," is evidently that of the manor of Heggeton or Hegeston (now called Headstone), which, according to Lysons (Harrow-on-the-Hill, vol. ii. p. 565), was aliened by Dudley, Lord North, anno 1630, to Simon Rewse." We now discover from the Commons' Journal that Rewse or Rowse held the property till about 1641. Lysons was unaware of this fact, for he continues: "I can learn nothing farther relating to this estate "--that is, after Rewse came into possession-" than that it is now [1795] the property of John Asgill Bucknall, Esq., whose ancestor, Sir William Bucknall, purchased it towards the close of the last century." The mansion belonging to this estate was formerly the occasional residence of the Archbishops of Canterbury-Arundell dates from Hegeston, anno 1407-and except in this Bill of 1641 I have never known the property to be called Hogston. H. G. GRIFFINHOOFE. 34, St. Petersburg Place, W. STATUTE LAW (7th S. x. 409).-Under this title may be noted an omission in the octavo edition of the Statutes for 1890,"published by authority." At the foot of p. 406 (in the schedule to the Statute Law Revision [No. 2] Act, 1890, 53 & 54 Vict., c. 51) is a provision for That ar sa fule be-Ine and owt. (ii. 25), where the phrase "beuth the tone" means He does the same with but in the same work THE THREE GREAT SUBJECTS (7th S. x. 487).The two lines Ne sont que trois matières à nul home entendan De France, de Bretaigne, et de Rome la grant are taken from 'Guiteclin de Sassaigne ; ou, Chanson des Saxons,' the chief work of Jean Bodel, a subject of this chanson de geste is the war of French trouvère of the thirteenth century. The Charlemagne and Witikind (Guiteclin), who rebelled against the great emperor after the rout of Roncevaux. Francisque Michel, Paris, 1839, 2 vols. 12mo. An edition of the work was given by DNARGEL. The two lines quoted by Littré are taken from the old French poem, 'La Chanson des Saxons,' par Jean Bodel, ed. Francisque Michel, 2 vols. 8vo. Paris, 1839, which belongs to the collection of" Romans des Douze Pairs de France." It deals with Widukind and the war he waged against Charlemagne. Though the poem does not begin |