London, from his notes taken from various sources, including the Harleian, Raines, and Piccope MSS., has recently sent me a mass of valuable and interesting information, which I propose to publish, along with the notes I have had sent me by various correspondents, in the form of extra sheets, which will be sent to all those who have subscribed to my work on Ribchester. If any of your readers are able to supply me with references to MSS., &c., in which information is likely to occur, or can send me a précis of the information itself, either through N. & Q'or privately, they will be conferring a great favour upon me, besides adding to the completeness of the list. I propose to print my revised list of rectors early in February, 1891. Green Nook, Longridge, Preston. TOM C. SMITH. THOMAS SOUTHWORTH.-During the restoration of Barrow Gurney Church, a slabstone was discovered in the Court aisle, bearing the following inscription:-"Hic jacet Tho: Southworth armiger legis Consiliarius et in Societate Gra......ctor Pacis et qvorum Justitiarivs Civitati Wellensi a Memoria" (running round the outer edge); "Cvstos Rotvlorum Deputatus in Comitate Som. Qvi Obiit 8 Die Septembris Anno D'ni 1625 Etatis Svæ. 61" (inside). The parish register, which is well kept and in good preservation, contains no entry of his burial, and there is nothing to connect his name with the parish. His younger brother, Henry Southworth, was lord of the manor of WyckChampflower, in this county, and was buried there in 1625. Thomas Southworth was Recorder of Wells, 1608-9, and member for the city in 1613 and 1619. Can any reader kindly supply the hiatus in the inscription, explain "deputy custos rotulorum," and give any information which will help to clear up the mystery? J. A. W. WADMORE. Barrow Gurney Vicarage, Somerset. FORTESCUE.-Information is desired concerning the Fortescues of Sandford, Oxon, and Abingdon, co. Berks. Thomas Fortescue, of Abingdon, gent., was brother to John Fortescue, of Sandford, whose daughter Mary, born 1784, married James Sherwood, of Abingdon, surgeon, April 17, 1810, at St. Helen's, Abingdon. Any particulars as to the parentage and descent of Thomas and John will be much esteemed. Please answer direct. GEO. F. TUDOR SHERWOOD. 6, Fulham Park Road, S.W. JACOBITE WINE - GLASSES.-Is there any information available concerning the rules and constitutions of Jacobite clubs, and particularly as regards their wine glasses and the mottoes upon them? Such as have fallen under my observation are engraved with roses and rosebuds, with, occasionally, a star, and with such mottoes as "Fiat," "Radiat," Was there ever a baronetcy in this family? I GRENVILLE FAMILY OF STOW, CORNWALL.— think not; but in 'Magna Britannia,' vol. iii. p. xcv, Lysons states that "Sir Richard Grenville, elder son of Sir Beville, was created a baronet in 1630" (when he was nine years old! and evidently confusing him with Sir Bevil's brother, as he adds that he died in 1658, s.p.m., when the title became extinct). Burke, in his 'Extinct Baronetage,' ignores the creation of this baronetcy entirely; nor do I find mention of it elsewhere. Where did Courthope get the idea from? CROSS-CROSSLET. North Hants parish great and small tithes and one MERSH OR MARSH PLOTS pay to the vicar of a penny each to the church rates in the seventeenth century. What was their origin; and are they four parish seats paying fourpence each. How did found elsewhere? In the same parish there were these come to the churchwardens; and are they also to be found in ancient churchwardens' accounts elsewhere? Replies. VICAR. EMPRESS MAUD: HER BURIAL-PLACE. The Empress Maud died at Rouen Sept. 10, 1167, and was buried, it would seem, no fewer than four times; but certainly not at Reading Abbey. Strickland says: "She was interred with royal honours, first, in the transferred to the Abbey of Bec, before the altar of the Convent of Bonnes Nouvelles. Her body was afterwards Virgin. In this ground her body remained till the year 1282, when, the abbey church of Bec being rebuilt, the workmen discovered it, wrapped up in an ox-hide. The coffin was taken up and, with great solemnity, reinterred in the middle of the chancel, before the high altar. The ancient tomb was removed to the same place, and, with the attention the Church ever showed to the memory of a foundress, erected over the new grave. This structure falling to decay in the seventeenth century, its place was supplied by a fine monument of brass, with a pompous inscription." Her remains were discovered and exhumed for the fourth time, January, 1847, when the ruins of the Benedictine church of Bec were demolished. According to the Moniteur, a leaden coffin, containing fragments of bones and silver lace, was found, with an inscription affirming that the chest contained the illustrious bones of the Empress Matilda. Sandford says "she was buried in the Abbey of Bec, in Normandy, with funeral pomp.' He adds that "Gabriel du Moulin tells us that she had her interment in the church of Notre Dame du Pré, in the suburbs of Rouen." Père Anselme, Mrs. Everett Green, and Laurance all give Bec as the place of her interment. XAVIER DE MAISTRE'S VOYAGE AUTOUR DE MA CHAMBRE' (7th S. x. 488).—"V consonne" is explained in section xvi. The narrator of the charming voyage there describes his habit of slipping to the edge of a chair and putting his feet on the mantelpiece-a position, he says, admirably represented by the letter V. His faithful dog Rosine at such moments would pull at the skirts of his travelling dress that he might take her up and let her rest upon the ready-made bed formed by the angle of his body. HENRY ATTWELL. Barnes. King Henry I. (father of the Empress Maud) was "honourably interred in the Church of our Lady in the Abbey of Reading, which he had founded and richly endowed," but he was the only one of our monarchs buried there. His May I venture to controvert our Editor's exgreat-great-great-grandson, Prince John of Corn-planation of "V consonne et séjour" in section xxxiii. of the above work? In section xvi. the author himself explains what he means:— wall (eldest son of Richard, Earl of Cornwall and King of the Romans), was buried there in 1232, as was also his only sister, Isabel, two years later. H. MURRAY LANE, Chester Herald. Roger de Hoveden, who, as a contemporaneous chronicler, may be relied upon, records : "In the year of grace 1167, being the thirteenth year of the reign of King Henry, son of the Empress Matilda (Maud), the said Matilda, formerly Empress of the Romans and mother of the above-named king, departed this life and was buried at Rouen, at the Abbey called St. Mary de Pratis." This Abbey is said by William of Malmesbury to have been founded by Matilda, queen to William I.; but according to Roger de Wendover it owed its origin to Henry I. In any case, it was much enriched by the latter; and on his death those portions of his body removed during the process of embalming (which was rendered necessary for its removal thence to Reading) were buried there. WALTER J. ANDREW. HERMENTRUDE. "Rosine, ma chienne fidèle, ne manque jamais de venir alors tirailler les basques de mon habit de voyage, pour que je la prenne sur moi; elle y trouve un lit tout arrangé et fort commode au sommet de l'angle que forment les deux parties de mon corps: un V consonne représente à merveille ma situation. Rosine s'élance sur moi, si je ne la prends pas assez tôt à son gré. Je la trouve souvent là sans savoir comment elle y est venue." When, therefore, the author, in section xxxiii., says, "Viens, ma Rosine; viens.-V consonne et séjour," his meaning is, "Come, my Rosine; here is your usual bed ready for you.' "At least, this is how I understand the passage. Will the Editor kindly say if he agrees with me? I quote from Gustave Masson's edition in the "Clarendon Press Series," 1888, the same that I used for my recent article (7th S. x. 203). JONATHAN BOUCHIER. [We agree. There is no doubt as to the general sense, which is the same under either explanation. But we still think that there is a double meaning, as "V. con sonne was used as a musical term for "turn over the page," i. e., "let us make a fresh start"; and there is the reconciliation with the servant as well as the bed for the beast involved in the passage.] The empress was buried in Bec Abbey, where in 1282 her corpse was discovered, wrapped in an ox-hide, and was reinterred, with an epitaph. See Mrs. Everett Green's 'Lives of the Princesses of England.' The only authorities (known to me) who name Reading are Stow and Baker, and the JOHN PEEL, THE CUMBERLAND HUNTER (7th S. former of these adds a note that "Rouse of War-x. 281, 369).—I dare say A. J. M. is correct in wick saith she deceased at Roane, and was buried his surmise that "Sidney Gilpin" is a pseudonym. in the Monastery of Becco in Normandy." I have no evidence on the subject either pro or con. With regard to the dog, with "her sons of peerless faith," which has-I will not say unjustly-offended KILLIGREW, I must confess that this alteration is chargeable to myself. For reasons which I can scarcely account for, I have a strong dislike to the usual monosyllabic term for a female dog. Capt. Hector McIntyre, whom one would not suspect of being over scrupulous in such a matter, seems on a certain occasion to have had a similar objection to the word. (See the Ossian scene in 'The Antiquary,' chap. xxx.) Earlier in the chapter, however, both Hector and his uncle use the (to me) more objectionable term. The case of "a horse and her foal" is not quite analogous. Any lady might, and would, say, "My beautiful mare"; but no lady, I imagine, would, if she could help it, like The Empress Matilda-married first to Henry V., Emperor of Germany, and secondly to Geoffrey Plantagenet, Earl of Anjou-is said by Stow to have been buried at Reading; but Sandford says she was buried in the Abbey of Bec, in Normandy; and Gabriel de Moulin says in the church of Notre Dame du Pré, in the suburbs of Rouen. M. Paris says, on account of her being the daughter of a king, wife of an emperor, and mother of a king, she had these words engraven on her tomb : Ortu magna, viro major, sed maxime partu CONSTANCE RUSSELL. [Other replies to the same effect, including one which we still hope to publish, are acknowledged.] 66 to say, "My handsome bitch." Even in a language other than one's own I do not like the word. In the delightful scene in the first act of 'Le Malade Imaginaire,' where Argan, stick in hand, pursues Toinette round the chair, he calls her, amongst other complimentary names, chienne." This sounds unpleasant; whereas, had he called her "jument," or ânesse," or chatte," there would, considering his anger at the time, have been nothing specially disagreeable in any of these terms. Still I admit that KILLIGREW is right. In quoting one ought not to alter a single word, and for the future, like the Jackdaw of Rheims, I "won't do so any more," unless it should be something "beyond the beyont," which, of course, the female of dog is not. I know so little about hunting, except from reading, that I can scarcely speak even to a matter of fact as to whether the Cumberland hill folk hunt foxes mostly on foot or on horseback. Mr. Graves's mention of "neck-break 'scapes" and "the rasperfence," as well as of the sound of John Peel's horn, would lead one to infer that he is speaking of equestrian hunting. I do not think, but I write under correction, that a hunter on foot would, like little boy Bluet, "blow up his horn." See the 'Lady of the Lake,' canto i. stanza x., where the poet says of the mounted, or, strictly speaking, dismounted, FitzJames :— Then through the dell his horn resounds This is a matter which a Cumbrian dalesman could settle for us directly. I remember, at my Cumberland school, a lad who came from West Cumberland, who used to tell us of his following the hounds, I am nearly certain, on foot; but it may have been that he possessed no nag other than Shanks's. As I have mentioned my old schoolfellow, I may perhaps be allowed, in passing, although it is not connected with hunting, but with another "sport," to recall the account he used to give us of the annual football match at Easter between the sailors and the colliers of Workington. Possibly, like boys, most things were both to him and to us pro mirifico"; but, judging from my remembrance of his description of those fearful contests, the battle of Inkerman would seem to have been, in Milton's words, "a civil game to this uproar." I am glad to hear from KILLIGREW that in Cumberland "the hill foxes are hunted for reasons other than those of sport pure and simple." I conclude that KILLIGREW means that they are hunted as vermin, which, I admit, is defensible. I fear, however-as, indeed, KILLIGREW more than hints -that the Cumberland "fell fox-hunters," as an old shepherd in 'Guy Mannering' says with an unintentional pun, "drink delight of battle," like the Carmelite in Les Maîtres Sonneurs,' who was obliged to confess to his superior that he fought with the "bourdon d'une musette" in the bag pipers' bagarre, not simply in self-defence, but that "il s'est laissé emporter au plaisir de taper comme un sourd." JONATHAN BOUCHIER. Ropley, Alresford. It may be worth noting that there is a memoir of Peel, illustrated by a sketch, in a recent number of the Monthly Chronicle of North Country_Lore and Legend, published at Newcastle-upon-Tyne. At this moment I cannot lay my hand upon it and verify the passage. The song 'Remember the Hunter John Peel' must have had a very wide circulation. Once, some ten years since, when on a visit to Orkney, and accompanying a party to the Standing Stones of Stennis, near Stromness, I heard it, for the first the party. time in my life, sung by a young Scotchman of He told me, on my inquiries as to "the hunter John Peel," that "he went foreign," which means, I suppose, that he went abroad. Let no one imagine, however, that hunting with him, In his coat of gray, And his hounds and his horn in the morning, was like a day with the Pytchley or the Quorn, as described so graphically in his famous novels by G. J. Whyte Melville, or more amusingly by Robert Surtees in 'Mr. Sponge's Sporting Tour. It was done on foot. JOHN PICKFORD, M.A. Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. In what book of songs (if any) can I find the ar Sum Carmelita, Baston cognomine dictus, The poem is quoted at length in Bower's 'Scotichronicon,' book xii. chap. xxii. It is also printed as an appendix to the 1740 edition of John Major's "Historia.' Bower, in introducing it, commends it highly as a piece which ought not to be hid under a bushel, but deserved to be set on a candlestick. It is a very curious sonorously musical performance, a marvel of ingenuity in rhymes oddly interlaced. Its structure is in the main that of the common Leonine Latin verse, but it has many irregularities. The description of the battle, the gathering of the hosts, the digging of the pits, the fury and clamour, the blood and terror of the fight Est dolor immensus, augente dolore dolorem Est valor arescens, frustrante valore valoremthe slaughter of the English, and, above all, the lamented fall of Gloucester, Clifford, Marshall, Maulay, Tiptoft, and De Argentine-all these, and much besides, are dwelt upon without more bombast than the forced character of the rhyme made inevitable. Take it for all in all the Car melite's ransom is a very queer piece of poetry. Its lilt is often as rhythmical as the 'Charge of the Light Brigade.' There is another piece in much the same metre and on the same subject which also has been ascribed to Robert Baston. See 'The Political Songs of England, John to Edward II.,' Camden Society, 1839, p. 262, where the text begins, and p. 388, where the attribution of the authorship appears. The translation only is given on p. 48 of vol. iv. of Goldsmid's privately printed 1884 edition of Wright's fine work; and, as a recent disappointed purchaser, I would like to say that, in my humble opinion, that reprint by Goldsmid, though indeed a pretty book, is nothing short of an editorial villainy. Mr. Goldsmid, who left out so much, might surely have spared us also the repetition of Wright's statement that this poem on Bannockburn was made in 1313! It is much more querulous, much less vivid, and, on the whole, greatly inferior when compared with the poem preserved by Bower. It would be interesting to know what Mr. Wright's authority was for the ascription of it to our friend the Carmelite. Glasgow. GEO. NEILSON. JOHN WESLEY (7th S. x. 467).—It may interest the REV. J. H. OVERTON (if he is not acquainted with the fact) to learn that pasted on the inside cover of the first Chipping register is a slip of paper with the following note, in the handwriting of the Rev. John Milner, Vicar of Chipping, 17391779: "John Wesley, late Fellow of Lincoln's College, in Oxford, ordain'd both Deacon and afterwards Priest, by Dr. John Potter, late Archbishop of CanterburyJune 7, 1752." Also: "Benjamin Ingham, late of Queen's College, in Oxford, ordain'd by Dr. John Potter, late Archbishop of Canterbury-Dec. 24 and 25, 1752." The date of these entries corresponds with the date of Wesley's visit to North Lancashire. On April 8, 1753, a memorable scene was witnessed in Chipping parish church, where Wesley had preached several times previously. A graphic description of what took place on this, his last recorded visit to Chipping, is given by Wesley himself ('Journal,' ii. 271-2). TOM C. SMITH. Green Nook, Longridge. CHARLES CHEYNE, VISCOUNT NEWHAVEN (7th S. x. 441, 496).-MR. ROBBINS will find some notices of Lord Newhaven and of his family, extracted from the Cheyne Papers in the possession of the Bridgewater Trustees, in part vii. of the appendix to the Eleventh Report of the Hist. MSS. Commission, issued in 1888, pp. 151-3. His death occurred on June 30, 1698. He had a pension of 1,2001. per annum granted him by of John Sheehan, barrister-at-law of the Inner JOHN SHEEHAN (7th S. x. 407, 431).-The name Temple, is attached to a new edition of The Bentley Ballads,' 1869, 8vo. From the biographical notes found in the preface it appears that he was educated at Clongowes Wood College, Sallins, co. Kildare, and at Trinity College, Dublin, afterwards entering the University of Cambridge. He was the author of 'The Irish Whiskey Drinker Papers' in Bentley's Miscellany, 'The Knight of Innishowen,' &c. DANIEL HIPWELL. 34, Myddelton Square, Clerkenwell, John Sheehan, nicknamed "the Irish Whiskey Drinker," and more familiarly known as Jack Sheehan, was a well-known Irish barrister, who, with "Everard Clive of Tipperary Hall," wrote a series of pasquinades in verse, which were published in Bentley's Miscellany in 1846, and attracted considerable attention. He is generally believed to have been the prototype of Captain Shandon in 'Pendennis," "one of the wittiest, most amiable, and most incorrigible of Irishmen. Thackeray, indeed, admitted as much, for in sending a copy of the book to George Moreland Crawford, Paris correspondent of the Daily News, he wrote, "You will find much to remind you of old talks and faces-of William John O'Connell, Jack Sheehan, and Andrew Archdecne." O'Connell, who was a cousin of the "Liberator," stood for Tom Costigan, and Archdecne for the everdelightful Harry Foker, so that it is more than probable that Sheehan was the original of Captain Shandon. the "Deanery," a small, old-fashioned public-house He and Archdecne used to frequent fact that it was presided over by "Ingoldsby" near St. Paul's, which derived its name from the Barham, a canon of the neighbouring cathedral. Tompkinsville, New York. SYDNEY SCROPE. have heard that he wrote a poem, "The English Vandal,' referring to the defacements of the monument of the Redan. Can any of your readers corroborate this statement, or give any facts about him beyond that he was a reporter on the Morning Herald, and published a collection of prose and verse entitled 'The Tribute,' Cork, 1833? It has been stated that he was one of the earliest contributors to Punch, and was allowed great license by the editor; but no reference is made to him in any work on journalism except as a reporter, nor is he mentioned in Joseph Hatton's 'True Story of Punch.' D. J. O. Belgravia. MUMMY (7th S. x. 147, 197).-The phrase 'beat to mummy "" occurs in John Dryden's 'Sir Martin Marr-all,' 1666, Act IV. sc. i.:— "Sir Martin. An' I had a mind to beat him to mummy, he's my own, I hope." F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY. WINDSOR CHAIRS (7th S. ix. 487).— "It was on the great northern road from York to London.....that four travellers were......driven for shelter into a little public-house on the side of the highway...... The kitchen, in which they assembled, was the only room for entertainment in the house, paved with red bricks, remarkably clean, furnished with three or four Windsor chairs, adorned with shining plates of pewter and copper saucepans, nicely scoured," &c. Smollett wrote this during his imprisonment in 1759. The quotation is taken from the first chapter of The Adventures of Sir Launcelot Greaves,' which came out in the successive monthly numbers of the British Magazine in 1760 and 1761. Sir Launcelot Greaves' was published separately in 12mo. in 1762. There is nothing in the above excerpt which shows the description to be anything but that of an ordinary wayside inn of the period. The inference, therefore, may be drawn that Windsor chairs were in common use much before 1770, though they have not such a claim to antiquity as was once amusingly given to some of them by an imaginative auctioneer at Bruges. An English resident had died there, and his household furniture was put up for sale. Among other things were two of these Windsor chairs, which the bidders were assured had come from the palace of the Archbishops of Canterbury, and had originally belonged to Thomas Becket! This astonishing information was supplied with a view to enhance the value of the chairs in the eyes of a well-known local collector of old furniture who happened to be present at the sale. I have often heard the story from one of the executors of the deceased man. H. G. GRIFFINHOOFE. 34, St. Petersburg Place, W. A NOTE ON 'THE BRIDE OF LAMMERMOOR' (7th S. x. 462).—The novel of 'The Bride of Lammermoor' places the tragedy before the Union, as the Scottish Parliament was sitting. MR. PICKFORD puts the date 1709; the Union was 1707. The real dates of the tragedy may be interesting. The heroine was married Aug. 12, died Sept. 12, was buried Sept. 30, 1669. ONE OF THE FAMILY. Date of Old WATCH (7th S. x. 409, 456).— Had watches any escapement before "the anchor escapement was invented by Clement, a London clockmaker, in 1680"? See Beckmann's Hist. of Inv.,' 9.v. "Clocks and Watches." Liverpool. J. F. MANSERGH. HUNGARY WATER: BOUN TREE (7th S. x. 4, 115, 294, 452).-A man who was present at the rough ceremony of riding the stang at Skidby, in the East Riding of Yorkshire, in or about 1846, wrote down for me the verses used on that occasion. These verses tell of the series of punishments to be inflicted on the wife-beater. He is to be tied to a jackass's back. If the jackass he should happen run, We'll shoot him thro' with a bottery gun. I.e., a gun made of the elder-tree by extracting the pith. W. C. B. "TRUCKLE CHEESE": "MERLIN CHAIR" (7th S. x. 67, 158).-Room may be found for the following short account of the inventor of this chair. John Joseph Merlin was a native of Huy, in the bishopric of Liège. He came over to England in 1760, and soon afterwards obtained the situation of "principal mechanic at Cox's Museum in Spring Gardens." He was subsequently "engaged in the invention and sale of various ingenious machines for the use of valetudinarians and other purposes, improved musical instruments, &c." About the year 1783 he opened a mechanical exhibition in Prince's Street, Hanover Square, known as Merlin's Museum, which was about Midsummer, 1808" (Lysons's Supp. to the finally closed first edition of 'The Environs of London,' 1811, Pp. 248-9). He died on May 4, 1803, aged sixtydescribed in the obituary notice in the Gent. Mag. seven, and was buried at Paddington. He is as "Rose's engine-maker, and mathematical instrument and watch and clock maker in general" (vol. lxxiii. pt. i. p. 485). G. F. R. B. THE OLD CLOCK OF ST. DUNSTAN'S-IN-THEWEST (7th S. x. 366).—This clock was bought, as MR. HIPWELL says, by the third Marquess of Hertford, and gave name to the House from which I date this note. The late Lord Hertford (fourth marquess) never lived here, nor did the house belong to him, having been left by his father to the Countess Zichy. At her death, her heirs renouncing the inheritance, the remainder (sixtyseven years) of the Crown lease was bought, some thirty-five years ago, by HENRY H. GIBES. St. Dunstan's, Regent's Park. |