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The council

of Nice alleged.

good men. eat both the sacrament and the matter of the sacrament."

Watson:"You reject the council of Lateran, because (you say) it agreeth not with God's word. What say you then to the council of Nice? The words of the council be these: Let us not look a-low by the ground upon the bread and the drink set before us, but, lifting up our mind, let us. faithfully believe, there upon that holy table to lie the Lamb of God taking away the sins of the world, being sacrificed of the priests'.""

Ridley:"That council was collected out of ancient fathers, and is to me a great authority; for it saith, 'that bread is set upon the altar, and having our minds lifted up, we must consider him which is in heaven.' The words of the council make for me."

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The place expounded.

Watson:"Exaltata mente,' with a mind exalted:" that

If the Lamb is, not as brute beasts at the rack or manger, having an eye

of God lie

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ren only upon the thing that is set before them: The Lamb of

the table, then why doth the council bid

God lieth on the table,' saith the council."

Ridley: "The Lamb of God is in heaven, according to the verity of the body: and here he is with us in a mys

us lift up

our mind

whichrather should bid

us let down tery, according to his power; not corporally."

our minds to the altar?

Watson:-"But the Lamb of God lieth on the table." Ridley:"It is a figurative speech; for in our mind we understand him which is in heaven."

Watson" But he lieth there, the Greek word is

κεῖται.”

Ridley:-"He lieth there; that is, he is there present, not corporally, but he lieth there by his operation."

Watson:"He lieth; but his operation lieth not." Ridley:-"You think very grossly of the sitting or lying of the celestial Lamb on the table of the Lord: for we may not imagine any such sitting or lying upon the table, as the reason of man would judge; but all things are here to be

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[· Ἐπὶ τῆς θείας τραπέζης, πάλιν κἀνταῦθα μὴ τῷ προκειμένῳ ἄρτῳ καὶ τῷ ποτηρίῳ ταπεινῶς προσέχωμεν, ἀλλ ̓ ὑψώσαντες ἡμῶν τὴν διάνοιαν πίστει νοήσωμεν κεῖσθαι ἐπὶ τῆς ἱερᾶς ἐκείνες τὸν ἀμνὸν τοῦ θεοῦ, τὸν αἴροντα τὴν ἁμαρτίαν τοῦ κόσμου, ἀθύτως ὑπὸ τῶν iepówv Ovópevov. Gelasius. Hist. Conc. Nicæn. cap. xxx. apud Labbæum. Ed. 1671. tom. ii. col. 233. En.]

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understood spiritually. For that heavenly Lamb is (as I confess) on the table; but by a spiritual presence, by grace, and not after any corporal substance of his flesh taken of the Virgin Mary. And indeed the same canon doth very plainly teach, that the bread which is set on the table is material bread; and therefore it (the canon, I mean) commandeth that we should not creep on the ground in our cogitation, to those things which are set before us; as who should say, what other things are they (as much as pertaineth to their true substance) than bread and wine? But rather,' saith the canon, lifting up our minds into heaven, let us consider with faith the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sins of the world, sitting or lying upon the table.' For a lifted up faith,' saith he, 'seeth him which sitteth on the right hand of God the Father, after the true manner of a body set by grace on the Lord's table, and taking away the sins of the world. For I think you mean not so; as though the Lamb did lie there prostrate with his members spread upon the table."

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Smith:-"I bring another place out of the council of Another Nice: None of the apostles said, this is a figure of the leged. body of Christ: none of the reverend elders said the unbloody sacrifice of the altar to be a figure.'

"Ergo, You are deceived."

Ridley:-"This canon is not in the council of Nice; for I have read over this council many times."

of Florence

Then came in another, whom master Ridley knew not, The council and said: "The universal church both of the Greeks and alleged. Latins, of the east and of the west, have agreed in the council of Florence uniformly in the doctrine of the sacrament; that in the sacrament of the altar there is the true and real Out of Dr

body."

Ridley's copy.

Ridley:-"I deny the Greek and the east church to have agreed either in the council at Florence, or at any time else, with the Romish church in the doctrine of transubstantiation

"Nullus apostolorum dixit, hæc est figura corporis Christi: nullus venerabilium presbyterorum dixit incruentum altaris sacrificium figu ram," etc.

One of the scribes.

of bread into the body of Christ. For there was nothing in the council of Florence', wherein the Greeks would agree with the Romanists; albeit hitherto, I confess, it was left free for every church to use, as they were wont, leavened or unleavened bread."

Here cried out Dr Cole, and said, they agreed together concerning transubstantiation of bread into the body of Christ. Master Ridley said, that could not be.

Here started up another unknown to master Ridley, but thought to be one of the scribes, who affirmed with him, that indeed there was nothing decreed concerning transubstantiation; but the council left that, as a matter not meet nor worthy to disturb the peace and concord of the church: to whom master Ridley answered again, saying, that he said the truth.

Pie: "What say you to that council, where it is said, that the priest doth offer an unbloody sacrifice of the body of Christ?"

Ridley:"I say, it is well said, if it be rightly under

stood."

Pie:-"But he offereth an unbloody sacrifice."

Ridley:-"It is called unbloody, and is offered after a certain manner, and in a mystery, and as a representation of that bloody sacrifice; and he doth not lie, who saith Christ to be offered."

Weston playeth Go

Weston:"I, with one argument, will throw down to the liath with ground your opinion, out of Chrysostom, and I will teach, not only a figure, and a sign of grace only, but the very same

David.

[This assertion is perfectly true, although cardinal Bessarion had managed to produce a temporary union; for his conduct in which business he was severely blamed, the Greek church being uninformed of his proceedings, and having never authorised him to attempt a union. See Historia concertationis Græc. Latinorumque de Transubstant. auct. J. R. Kieslingio; Lipsiæ, 1754, pp. 188-194. Fleury, Hist. Eccles. livre 108, § 135, and Labbé, tom. xiii. ED.]

[ Τοῦτο τὸ σῶμα καὶ ἐπὶ φάτνης κείμενον ᾐλέσθησαν μάγοι * * * * * σὺ δὲ οὐκ ἐν φάτνῃ ὁρᾷς, ἀλλ ̓ ἐν θυσιαστηρίῳ, οὐ γυναῖκα κατέχουσαν, ἀλλ ̓ ἱερέα παρεστῶτα. S. Chrys. Hom. xxiv. in 1 Cor. cap. x. Op. Ed. Ben. Par. 1710, tom. x. p. 218. ED.]

body, which was here conversant on the earth, to be in the eucharist.

"We worship the selfsame body in the eucharist which the wise men did worship in the manger.

This argument, after

"But that was his natural and real body, not spiritual: "Ergo, The real body of Christ is in the eucharist. "Again, the same Chrysostom saith, We have not here the disposi the Lord in the manger, but on the altar: here a woman terms, as it holdeth him not in her hands, but a priest.""

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tion and

standeth, is not formal.

Ridley:-"We worship, I confess, the same true Lord and Saviour of the world, which the wise men worshipped in the manger; howbeit we do it in a mystery, and in the sacrament of the Lord's supper, and that in spiritual liberty, as saith St Augustine, not in carnal servitude; that is, we do not worship servilely the signs for the things: for that should be, as he also saith, a part of a servile infirmity. But we behold with the eyes of faith him present after grace, and spiritually set upon the table; and we worship him which sitteth above, and is worshipped of the angels. For Christ is always assistant to his mysteries, as the said Augustine saith. And the Divine Majesty, as saith Cyprian, doth never absent itself from the divine mysteries; but this assistance and presence of Christ, as in baptism it is wholly spiritual, and by grace, and not by any corporal substance of the flesh, even so it is here in the Lord's supper, being rightly and according to the word of God duly

ministered."

Weston: :-"That which the woman did hold in her womb, the same thing holdeth the priest."

Ridley:-"I grant the priest holdeth the same thing, but after another manner. She did hold the natural body; the priest holdeth the mystery of the body."

(Weston repeated again his argument out of Chrysostom in English.)

Ridley-"I say that the author meant it spiritually."

(Weston here, dissolving the disputations, had these Weston

bloweth up thetriumph.

[3 S. Aug. de Doctrina Christiana. lib. iii. cap. vi. Op. Ed. Ben. Par. 1685. tom. iii. pars 1. col. 47. ED.]

words: "Here you see the stubborn, the glorious, the crafty, the unconstant mind of this man. Here you see this day, that the strength of the truth is without foil. Therefore I beseech you all most earnestly to blow the note (and he began, and they followed,) Verity hath the victory,' 'Verity hath the victory."

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1 "Videtis præfractum hominis animum, gloriosum, vafrum, inconstantem: videtis hodie veritatis vires inconcussas. Itaque clamate, Vicit veritas."

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