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by Dr. Johnson, in his 'Life of Congreve '; and in Shadwell's ‘Miser,' 1691, and had noted for Boswell there is a report of a conversation between inquiry the phrases_given by H. A. St. J. M., the Doctor and Garrick, in which the former except as to " King John's cup at Lyn.” Accordrather preposterously pronounces these verses to ing to Murray's ' Handbook to the Eastern Counbe the finest passage in English poetry.
ties,' 1892, p. 297,H. W. O.
“A silver-gilt cup and sword, said to have been King [Very many replies are acknowledged.] John's gift to the town, are still carefully preserved in
the custody of the mayor for the time being. The cup RALEIGH FAMILY (4th S. x. 308, 419, 505).—In itself, in elegance of shape, might have come from the order to account for the death of Elizabeth Raleigh hand of Cellini. The figures in enamel of men and at "the Enbrook” in 1716, I find the following women hunting and hawking are extremely curious. clue. The manor of Enbrook, Cheriton, Kent, this cup cannot be older than the time of Edward III. was then vested in the Honywood family. On the period of the greatest prosperity and importance of referring to Burke's 'Peerage and Baronetage'l Lynn." find the eldest son of Sir W. Honywood, who pre In his address to the reader prefixed to The deceased his father, 1719, described as "William Miser," Shadwell says that Molière's play " having of Cherdon, m. Frances, dau. of Wm. Raleigh, too few persons and too little action for an English Esq.” Is this correct? Should it not be William theatre, I added to both so much that I may call Honywood of Cheriton, married to Frances, dau. of more than half of this play my own”; and adds Philip Raleigh? If so, we have tolerable evidence this comic apology : “'fis not barrenness of wit that Elizabeth Raleigh was on a visit to her sister or invention that makes us borrow from the French, Frances Honywood ; but does any published pedi- but laziness; and this was the occasion of my gree prove that my theory is right?
R. J. FYNMORE.
making use of 'L'Avare.'»
I think there is little doubt that “campaigne” Sandgate, Kent.
=champagne of to-day ; though in 'The Woman ISLAND OF BARBADOS (8¢h S. vi. 26).—MR. Captain, 1880, Act I., Shadwell mentions“ Celery, HERBERT STURMER renders
good service in calling Champaign, and Burgundy," the first named being, attention to the spelling of the name Barbados. I suppose, Sillery. As he remarks, the stamps of this colony have I give up Calvin's big cup. The association of always borne the word Barbados. This is since ideas seems to lack actuality. Shadwell was a 1852. Still
, the official spelling is not generally Norfolk man, and his father was buried at Oxadopted in this country. In the Proceedings of burgb, some dozen miles or so from Lynn. our own Geographical Society the name will be In this age of reprints, it is a pity that some found spelt both with and without the e. Mr. competent editor does not take Shad well in hand. Keith Johnston, in his School Geography,' has His plays abound in odd sayings and bits of folkboth spellings on two consecutive pages (358 and lore, beyond their intrinsic interest, which is con357). The Rev. J. H. Satton Moxly, in his siderable. excellent Guide to Barbados' (Sampson Low,
“Viper wine" from Viper's Bugloss seems rather 1886) adops the official orthography,
far-fetched; but it was evidently a cordial stimuCHAS. Jas. FÈRET.
lant. The misspelling of Barbados is very a slight error which I hope to diminish by degrees.
I have quite a large budget of Shadwell queries, in geographical nomenclature compared with
JAMES HOOPER. “ British Honduras," which we still find both in Norwich. school-books and parliamentary papers, though it was shown by the correspondence that preceded Viper wine was not, as your correspondent the surrender of the island of Roatan by Lord supposes, a decoction of Viper's Bugloss, but was Clarendon that the territory so called was, under made by digesting live or dry vipers (the College the Spanish dominion, a province of the vice of Physicians ordered the latter, but many pracroyalty of Mexico, while Honduras was a province titioners preferred the former) in Canary sack. of the vice-royalty of Guatemala. This was proved
C. C. B. to the satisfaction of the British Government by old maps and official documents produced by the
BONFIRES (8th S. v. 308, 432, 472).-I have diplomatic representatives of the Republic of referred to both the . N. E. 'D.' and
Prof. Skeat's Honduras" applied to the territory of Belize was the correct one. My reasons are as follows. We Honduras, which showed that the name " British Concise Dictionary, but cannot say that I feel
convinced about the “bone-fire" etymology being a misnomer.
THOMAS FROST. Littleover, near Derby.
are constantly told the bonfires are a pagan sur
vival, and the custom of lighting them is as old as EXPLANATION OF PHRASES SOUGHT (8th S. v. the hills, yet the combined efforts of all the talent 489).-Singularly enough, I had just been reading engaged upon the ‘N.E. D.' have not been able to
unearth a single quotation for any one of the forms bouncing baun can be beacon (Anglo-Saxon becn, given under“ bonfire ” of an earlier date than beâcen) I do not understand. With regard to the 1483. Were not bonfires lit before that date ; and, Bel, Baal, or Baldr suggestion, I am not, of course, if so, how is it that all traces of the name have dis- concerned.
CHAS. Jas. FÈRET. appeared ? Then, who was the author of the Catholicon Anglicanum'? Some foreign monk
The following examples of the word may be who ascertained the meanings of the words bane acceptable :and fire separately and explained the compound
"& 80 he died of euill diseases. But they made him banefire as ignis ossium? Or was he a Northum- no bonefyre/ like the bonefires of his fathers.”—Tyn
dale's Bible, 1537, 2 Chron. xxi, 19. brian himself who, unwittingly, made the etymo “solempne processions and other prasynges to almightie logy ? For suchlike etymologies one gets one's God, with Bonefires and dauces were ordeigned in euery knuckles rapped in 'N. & Q.' nowadays.
toune."-Hall's 'Hen. V.,'f. 19 (1550). The illustration selected by PROF. SKEAT, of a Kindle you summon'd Spirits and unite pail of water being turned into a pape of glass, is
Your scatter'd Atomes, in this amorous fight: not on all fours with the case at issue, because pail
More innocent than those of hers, whose Troy
Was made a Bone-fire by her Firebrand boy. and pane never meant the same thing, but balefire
Gayton's 'Notes on Don Quixote,' 1654, p. 213. and banefire did, as can be seen by a reference to
R. R. the aforementioned 'N. E. D.'
Neglecting the newer ways of spelling the word, “HORKEYS " (8th S. vi. 84).-J. G. Nall, who invented by modern authors with antiquarian never seeds at a loss for a derivation, does not give tastes or bias, the following are the forms given the spelling horkey, but only, “ Hawkey, hockey, by the ‘N. E. D.,' with the earliest dates of their Norse hauka, to shout, Wel. hwa, Med Lat. occurrence appended : Bæl (1000), bale (1400), huccus, a cry. Hence hawker, huckster." But are balowe (1430), bayle (1470), bane (1483), bone there any early quotations for the word to give. (1493), bonne (1630), baill (1635), bald (? misprint historial support to the above ? for bale, 1549), bon (1556), bain (1558), boane
JAMES HOOPER. (1581), of all of which only “bonfire" has survived. Norwich. The dates are instructive, The author of the northern Catholicon Anglicanum' mistakes the
This harvest doll, kern baby, ivy girl, Roman meaning of bane, and unwittingly invents an ety- is a very old story, which may be read in the
Ceres, Peruvian Perva, maiden, or barvest queen, mology, and thenceforth numerous instances crop pleasant pages of the curious Brand (ii. 16), up of the indiscriminate use of the various forms, and as a bone-fire without bones would be a mis
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings. nomer, bones are actually collected and burnt in the fires. The use of these ingredients is, to the * WARLLIBARTHAUCA “ WALLYBAROUT best of my belief, unknown to any other people, (8th S. vi. 128). - Probably Warkworth, six miles though the custom of lighting bonfires is pretty from Alnwick.
T. universal. But then other nations were not hampered in their observation of Midsummer Eve by
I fancy this must be a disguise for Wooler, a etymologies.
town about midway between Alnwick and ColdThe editor of the Catholicon' does not either stream, on the old inland route between Edinbelieve in the “bone” theory, and dubs ignis burgh and Newcastle. In an account of expenses ossium "a very literal translation of bonfire.”
of a journey from Edinburgh to London and back Dr. Johnson, in 1755, suggested the etymology in 1687, I find “Ullerbach head” mentioned as of bon+fire, but although it has its analogies (as, a stopping place, which clearly stands for "Wooler. 9., bonchief in 1340, bonere in 1300), it is not hauch-bead.”. The “Warlli" and "bauch," in the borne out by the history of the word, at least not first word given, I think stands for “Wooler by what we know of its history at present.
What the “bart” or “bar” stands for L. L. K. I cannot explain. Half way between Wooler and
Alnwick is 'Wooperton, which may be the place It is almost heresy to question the authority of intended if Wooler fails. PROF. SKEAT on matters of etymology, and I have
A. W. CORNELIUS HALLEN. no intention to dispute bis correctness in the pre Alloa, sent case. I plead guilty, however, to the fact that, in this instance, I did not consult his 'Con Pin (8th S. vi. 7, 76, 117).—A four and a half cise Dictionary.' Dr. Ogilvie, while giving PROF. gallon cask of ale—the smallest barrel of beer-80 SKEAT'S suggestion” as tó bone-fire, furnishes called from its being little larger than the huge the alternative theories that the word bonfire is wooden pin tankards used at the old German from the Dan. baun, a beacon, and Eng. fire, or drinking parties, when each drinker drank down the Welsh bàn, lofty, whence banffagl, a lofty to a pin, generally of silver, in the side of the blaze, a bon-fire. How the English way of pro- tankard. Compare Bailey :
" Ad Pinnas bibere [i. e., to drink to the Pin), an old Lewes as “castellanus de arundel.” The Percies Danish custom of drinking, which was having a Pin fixed bore the lions of Louvaine or Brabant in the first on the side of a wooden Cup to drink exactly to the Pin: quarter, says Camden, by special covenant on his or forfeit something. Hence the saying, He's in á
marriage. The tinctures seem changed.
T. W. DR. BREWER says that the custom of drinking
Aston Clinton. out of a huge wooden bowl with pins or pegs at fixed intervals was common among our Saxon
Your different correspondents have fallen into ancestors, and was introduced by St. Dunstan to confusion between Godfrey Barbatus, of Upper and present brawling. By the rules of good fellowship Lower Lorraine, ob. 1044, and Godfrey Barbatus, a drinker was to stop drinking only at a pin, and Duke of Brabant and Count of Lovainė, ob. 1069. if he drank beyond it was to drink to the next The latter was father of Adeliza and Josceline ; one:
but who their mother was is not clearly stated. No song, no laugh, no jovial din
Godfrey Barbatus, of Lovaine, had two wives : Of drinking wassail to the pin.
(1) Sophia, daughter of Emperor Henry IV. ; Longfellow, Golden Legend.' (2) Clementia, daughter of William II., Count of G. YARROW BALDOCK, Major. Burgundy. Freeman correctly calls Adeliza's
father Count of Löwen and Duke of Lower The small cask of four and a half gallons is per. Lotheringen. The betrotbal of the Empress haps called a pio from its resemblance to a skittle Matilda to the Emperor Henry V. in 1119
F. ADAMS. 80, Saltoun Road, Brixton, S.W.
have had some influence on her father's marriage
to the emperor's (?) niece in 1121. J. G. Is not this word related to penny, i.e., onetwelfth of a shilling? One pennyweight=twenty
News (8th S. v. 384, 431; vi. 98).-In Lord four grains is not, I think, one-twelfth of an ounce. Salisbury's collection of State Papers at Hatfield is Is it the weight of a silver penny? If pin equals one dated March 31,
1594, containing “Matters one-twelfth, it means one-twelfth of a hogshead of disclosed by Robert Barwys, priest." This has fifty-four gallons.
Mr. Richard Vestegan showed me the copy of a book THE MOTHER OF ADELIZA OF LOUVAINE (gin that was now in the press, presently to be printed, and S. v. 367 ; vi. 36).—Did Godfrey of Louvaine from Spain and Holland '; then in the preface the col
about Easter to be sent for England...... The title is 'News really marry his father's first cousin ? As there lector declares how, being at Amsterdam, were con. was no important political question involved, it sorted thither certain travellers, some from Spain and would seem difficult to suppose a dispensation Italy lately arrived, and upon occasion of talk, question would have been granted for such a marriage. being asked What
news in Spain
?' the Spanish traveller Moreover, as Ida had a marriageable
daughter in he had collected at his being in Spain." – Calendar of 1121 (when Adeliza married Henry I.), it would the MSS. of the Marquis of Salisbury,' part iv. p. 498. be difficult to suppose that her mother was daughter
This news-book, with its foreign correspondent of Charles, Duke of Lorraine, who died in 991, and political intent, was an anticipation of to-day's aged thirty-seven. Duke Charles's son died in
ALFRED F. ROBBINS. 1005, and his son-in-law, Lambert of Louvaine, died in 1015. Spener says Ermengarde, daughter I have to thank PROF. SKEAT for his courteous of Dake Charles, married Albert I. of Namur, and reply to my note under this heading. But my that Albert III., the father of Ida, as I take it, thanks are especially due to MR. ALEXANDER was grandson of Albert I.
PATERSON, MR. CHARLES FÈRET, and R. R. for Adeliza was young as well as beautiful, according the pains they have taken to show me that the to Lappenberg, when she married Henry I., and as word newes-signifying intelligence—was in use she lived long enough with her second husband to long before the advent of newspapers. According have four sons and one or more daughters, we may to MR. PATERSON, the earliest printed news-sheets fairly take it that she was not born much before date no further back than 1622, whereas the word 1100, and so her mother could hardly be a grand- newes occurs in a letter written by the Cardinal of daughter of Duke Charles, who died 109 years York in 1513. That fact is, in itsell, sufficient before.
to dispel the notion that the four cardinal points That Joscelino, head of the second line of Percies, below a weather-cock, when viewed from the was brother of Queen Adeliza admits of no doubt. Dorth-west, suggested the word in its present sense. In the Quo Warranto of 7 Edward I. the widow I beg, however, to state (1) that the idea of conof Josceline's grandson is expressly to hold Pet- necting N.E.W.ś, with the word news did not oriworth, " a tempore Joselini le castlelyn tunc fratris ginate with me; and (2) that I did not for one reginæ.” William de Albini comes Sussexiæ, son moment suppose, nor did I intend to imply, that of Queen Adeliza, calls him "Joc castellani avun. the word new-es (of news) could only be pronounced culi mei.” Josceline himself gave a charter of nüz. I know a little more than that. I merely
meant to convey, what in fact I stated in just 80 Lincolnshire what gride meant, and I got the many words, that newes, in the sense of tidings, has answer, “The same noise as a mill makes, or the never been, and could not be, pronounced other grating sound made by the heel upon a gravel than as a monosyllable, nūz, and I am still of that path. I have heard the word applied to the opinion. E. g., when the Cardinal of York wrote noise of machinery. F. O. BIRKBECK TERRY. to Henry VIII., “after this newes," he intended the word to be pronounced nūz, and not new-es.
In a little book of mine, 'A Key to In MemoIn fact, I challenge the learned Professor to cite an
riam,' which underwent correction by the illustrious instance where the word newes (implying tidings) poet, the passage which J. D. Ç. quotes is thus was pronounced in any other manner. 'I do not interpreted, “ Brakes means bushes (so wrote Lord know at what period the word newe was changed Tennyson), grides may mean grates," and so he to new, but I possess a book published in 1679 in left it. I think creak may have been a better which the word is printed without the final vowel. synonym, though the dictionaries might not accept "Samson Agonistes' appeared eight years earlier,
either. Í have heard the great poet say that he and I should be interested in knowing how the could not always recall what he meant when he word newes was spelt in that edition.
wrote it. Surely a great writer may expand the In conclusion, I should like to point out to Mr. first meaning of a word, when it suits him to do so. CHARLES FÈRET that he is slightly in error in
ALFRED Gatty, D.D. stating that the earliest news-letter or newspaper I have always thought this Tennysonian expublished in England was some two or three cen- pression appropriately descriptive of the rubbing turies" subsequent to the earliest use of the word of a rose-tree or vine against the window pane on news.
a cold, wet autumn evening. I have only been The earliest example given in ‘N. & Q.' is that able to discover one instance of its use besides cited by MR. PATERSON, viz., 1513. The first that quoted from 'In Memoriam,' and that is in "news-letter” sheets appeared in 1622, and the 'Paradise Lost':first newspaper (the Public Intelligencer) appeared The griding sword with discontinuous wound in 1663. Therefore the word news preceded the Pass'd through him.
Bk, vi. 328-9. first newspaper by one hundred and fifty years ; A foot-note in Gilbllan's edition of "Milton's and the news-sheets by only one hundred and nine Works' explains “griding” as cutting, and years.
discontinuous as separating the continuity I am not sorry to have raised this dust. It has of the parts. Dickens, in Nicholas Nickleby,' has warned me to walk with cautious steps and bated given the name Arthur Gride to an old usurer, breath in the haunts of learning-never to ask who is even more grasping and extortionate than questions or make suggestions (not quite a con- Ralph Nickleby. JOAN PICKFORD, M.A. dition to which dear old N. & Q.' would natur Newbourne Rectory, Woodbridge. ally wish to reduce a well-meaning man !). And yet I have heard above the denunciations of an
This means, in common use at any rate, to grate outraged dominie the small voice of a gentle and harshly, and in this sense doubtless Tennyson
C. C. B. considerate prompter, who, without ostentation, and for pity's sake, gave me the information that
TAE MACE (8th S. v. 487).—The mace was oriI needed.
RICHARD EDGCUMBE. ginally a potent weapon of offence, originating Coley Park, Reading.
doubtless in that earliest and most common weapon, [In the first edition of 'Paradise Lost'it is twice spelt the wooden club. It was an essential part of a news and once newes.)
knight's accoutrement; being usefulat close quarters, REVERENCE FOR THE DOVE IN Russia (gen S. for ready convenience it was hung at his saddlevi. 25).-The dove is held sacred in the Greek bow. Says an ancient poem :Church. For much curious information on this sub
And with his heavy mase of stele ject, see Mr. Conway's • Demonology and Devil
Then he gave the kyng his dele. Lore,' chap. xx.
C. C. B.
The besague and baston were varied forms of the
The mace used on horseback was a small “TO GRIDE” (8th S. vi. 8). - In the 'Imperial weapon, usually of steel. That used on foot was Dictionary,' edited by Annandale, gride is given much longer, and commonly of wood with head with the following quotation :
armed with iron rings and spikes. It was carried The gride of hatchets fiercely thrown
by the escort of magistrates and others as a ready On wigwam log, and tree, and stone.
protection against violence. As society quieted
Whittier. down and its original use fell into abeyance, the The word is explained as a grating or harsh sound. thing assumed the ornamental appearance it now Tennyson also is quoted for the use of the verb. has, it being now carried as a mere honorary form. The word as used by Tennyson is familiar to me. The ancient use of the mace introduces us to a Furthermore, I have casually asked a native of remarkable instance of ecclesiastical casuistry. The
clergy were forbidden to shed blood, and as thus the shall gladly hear from correspondents either prisword was inhibited it might have been thought it vately or through the medium of our old friend was sufficient to keep them from the battle-field. N. & Q.'
CHAS. JAs. FÈRET. But not so; they adopted the mace; though they 49, Edith Road, West Kensington. could not cut a man's throat, yet might they break his head. So Bishop Otho, half-brother of William,
LINES ON BISHOP COLENSO (8th S. vi. 128).fought alongside of the Conqueror at the bitter These are a rather bold burlesque on the correbattle of Hastings with great effect, the brothers spondence between Dr. Colenso and the English being, as you may say, a “pair of nutcrackers." bishops. They are by Shirley Brooks, first pub
P. E. M.
lished in French, and reprinted in his 'Wit and Humour.'
C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. LADY DANLOVE (8th S. v. 88; vi. 57, 115). Longford, Coventry. In confirmation of MR. HENDRIKS's contention that the true spelling of the name Vanlore, as CHELSEA TO WESTMINSTER IN 1758: GROSVENOR used by Sir Peter Vanlore himself, was Van Loor, FAMILY (855 S. v. 385, 435).–NEMO says, “It I would refer to Sir_A. Croke's Genealogical is well known that to the east of this spot (Chelsea] History of the Croke Family,' vol. i. p. 502. Ho the production of milk to supply ever-growing there gives a pedigree of the Van Loor family, London laid the foundation of the fortunes of the which is taken from the Dugdale MSS. in the Grosvenor family.” Of course, what laid the British Museum (No. 852, folio 324); and at the foundation of the fortunes of this family was the end is a facsimile of the signature of Sir Peter marriage of Mary, the daughter of Alexander Vanlore, Knt, and Bart., son of the elder Sir Peter Davies and the heiress of the Ebury estates, to Vanlore, Knt. That signature is plainly “Pieter Sir Thomas Grosvenor in 1677. In 1676 an Act van Loor."
C. W. PENNY. of Parliament was passed for the settlement of Wokingham.
these estates on Mary Davies, an orphan of the age In Dugdale's MSS., No. 352, fol. 324, the pedi- of eleven, and in the following year the marriage gree of the “Vanlore” family is given, and it is took place at the church of St. Clement Danes. there spelt throughout “Vanlore,” but signed by The bridegroom, who was only twenty, died at the "Pieter van Loor.” In the Calendar of S. P. age of forty-four, and his wife, who long survived Domestic, 1627,' the name appears as “ Vanlore,”
; him, passed the last thirty years of her life in conand in 1628 as Van Loor."
finement as a lunatic. Bourdon Farm, at Pimlico, CONSTANCE RUSSELL.
with its magnificent dairies, for some time added Swallowfield, Reading.
to the wealth of the family, but has long since
been swept away. Not so Bourdon Manor House, I am much obliged to your two correspondents, at the corner of Bourdon and Davies Streets, MR. B. W. GREENFIELD and MR. F. HENDRIKS, Berkeley Square, in which the youthful Mary for their courteous replies at the last reference. was brought up until her father found his last When I pointed out that Danlove was a mistaken rest in the north side of Westminster Abbey. The reading for Vanlore, I did not, of course, intend exterior of this - fine old house is still in excellent to imply that Vanlore was an immutable spelling. repair, and I have heard that the interior, with its There is, I presume, little doubt that the name is handsome ouk staircase and panelled walls, is toof Dutch origin. An interesting question arises day as it was two centuries ago. I cannot find in here. Lady Vanlore, as I have already stated, the ordinary books of reference any satisfactory was Jacoba, daughter of Henry Teighbot, and wife account of this manor house, which at the time of Sir Peter Vanlore. Mary, the daughter of Sir of its erection must have stood in solitary grandeur Peter and Lady Vanlore, married Sir Edward in the fields that lay between the Oxford and Powell, of Munster House, Fulham, and of Pen- Exeter roads. It cannot have been erected long, getbly. Lady. Vanlore, we know, also lived at if at all, before the time of Alex. Davies ; but I Fulham, and I am striving to ascertain her exact should be glad to learn of any references which will place of domicile. In the rate books for 1728–38 place its early history beyond a doubt. I find the Countess of Annandale assessed. This
W. F. PRIDEAUX. lady was, apparently, Charlotte Vanlore, heiress of
Jaipur, Rajputana. John Vanden Beppde, of Pall Mall, relict of William, first Marquis and third Earl of Annandale. WOLSEY'S BANQUETING HALL (8th S. vi. 121). The countess lived at what we now call Arundel -I ought to have stated in my recent communiHouse, a name which appears to me to be a cor- cation that the volume of the Gentleman's Magaruption of Anundale or Annandale. It seems pro- zine in which the views of Wolsey's banqueting bable, therefore, that Lady Jacoba Vanlore was an hall in its triple guise appeared was published in ancestress of Charlotte Vanlore. If any reader 1816, in which year the final alterations were made can supply me with the missing link or links of previous to Barry's recasting. The views were connexion, he will be doing me a great service. I accompanied with one of John Carter's trencbant