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number of the issue is 9,050....... The Robert Raikes of Esq., Queen's Messenger (born circa 1683, died the Northampton Mercury afterwards went to Glouces in London, December, 1750), by his wife Elizabeth was the father of the Robert Raikes, the founder of Sun (born 1689, married 1708, ob. circa 1728), day schools. The name of Dicey was upon every issue daughter of Thomas Bate, of Ashby-de-la-Zouch, of the Northampton Mercury from May 2nd, 1720, to co. Leicester, gent. She died Jan. 24, 1785, and May 2nd, 1885."
was buried at Ashby aforesaid on Jan. 28 following. The above interesting note is extracted from the The name of Thomas Kirkland fails to appear in Northampton Mercury of May 4.
the "List of the Graduates in Medicine in the other countn newspapers can boast of an equally University of Edinburgh, 1705-1866,' 8vo., Edid., long existence ? I think the list is a very small 1867, although an entry therein records that Wilone, and might very suitably find a place in the liam Kirkland graduated M.D. in 1772. pages of . N. & Q.'
John T. PAGE. Dr. Kirkland died at Ashby-de-la-Zoucb, 5, Capel Terrace, Southend-on-Sea.
Jan. 17, and was buried in the chancel of the
parish church on Jan. 22, 1798. REMARKABLE DROUGHT IN WINTER. - In a This note will serve as an addition to the account MS. apparently compiled between the years 1679 of him appearing in 'Dict. Nat. Biog.,' vol. xxxi. and 1684, by the Rev. Thos. Leigh, B.D., Fellow of p. 219.
DANIEL HIPWELL. Emmanuel College, Cambridge, it is incidentally recorded (in Latin) that there were no rains from AUTHOR
OF QUOTATION-So long ago as Oct. 26, the beginning of September, 1517, to the month of 1889 (71h S. viii. 329), I asked as to the authorMay, 1518," a period of at least eight months. ship of a little French song, which, it appears, I Having failed to find mention of the fact in print, did not then quote correctly. Perhaps I may now I make note of it for the benefit of your readers. be permitted to give the correct version and the
W. I. R. V.
Peu de Chose.
La vie est yaine : numerous readers to know that this rather common
Un peu d'amour, name in the north of England is derived from the
Un peu de haine...... paliser, or man who attended to the oak palings of
Et puis-bonjour ! the deer parks. In North Yorkshire the boundary
La vie est brève : of the ancient park is still known as the paled dyke.
Un peu d'espoir,
Un peu de rêve......
Et puis-bon soir ! TWICE BURIED IN ONE DAY.“The Sixth day Anthony Cole, of Chadwick, was twice Jeune Belgique,' in the Nineteenth Century of
From an article by Mr. William Sharp on 'La buryed, first in the Quaker's Yard, then in the Church- September last,' I have ascertained that this deyard.”—Parish Register of Bromsgrove, Sept., 1661. C. E. GILDERSOME-DICKINSON.
licate marvel of rbymed philosophy is by the BelEden Bridge.
gian author Léon Montenaeken. Mr. Sharp says
the lines have been attributed to a dozen different Races RIDDEN BY Women.-Mr. C. J. Ap French poets, old and latter-day. The more reason perley, who, when George IV. was king, was an that justice should be done here and now to the accomplished writer on hunting, racing, coaching, talented Belgian poet. JAMES HOOPER. and kindred topics, under the name of Nimrod, Norwich, on one occasion visited Ripon. Among the observations he made there is one worth transferring cently the ancient Lincolnshire town Bourne was,
A Curious LAND SALE CUSTOM.—Quite reto ‘N. & Q.':"On the Monday succeeding St. Wilfrid's Sunday, land within the district, the scene of a curious
on the occasion of the disposal of some meadow there were for many years races on Ripon Common, for prizes of various value; and one called the Lady's Plate, custom, an account of which may be worth preof 15l. value, for horses, &c., the best of heats, and twice serving in ‘N. & Q.’:round the common for a heat, to be ridden by women. * The land, known as the White Bread Meadow, was This is the only proper definition of what is now called brought to the hammer by direction of the Charity the Ladies' Plate that I have ever met with."-Sporting Trustees, and, in accordance with traditional usage, Magazine, 1827, vol. xx, N.S., p. 287.
a number of boys started in a race, the bidding lasting ASTARTE.
while the boys were running, the lot being ultimately THOMAS KIRKLAND, M.D., Medical WRITER.
let to the person who had made the highest offer at the
moment the possession of the first place in the race was -His baptism is thus recorded in the parish decided. The rent of the meadow was then expended register of Ashbourne, co. Derby : " October, Anno in wbite bread loaves, which were distributed to the Domini 1772, Baptized 14 Thomas Son of Mr Tho: poor of the locality.”'- Echo, April 16. Kirland & Mary Ux. Ashbourn." He married at
C. P. Hale. Packington, co. Leicester, Aug. 3, 1747, Dorothy ISLAND OF BARBADOS. – It is curious that (born 1723), daughter and cobeir of Joseph Palmer, reference books and newspapers should still be
found in no inconsiderable number speaking of a rouged, wrinkled, toothless, were descending to the colony called “Barbadoes.” Every postage stamp grave.”
W. B. ever issued from the island will, I believe, be found to have the word “Barbados ” upon it. A
THE DUKE OF York's Son. — The following letter from me calling attention to this appeared is a cutting from the Times :in the Literary World two or three years ago, “While so many are rejoicing at the safe arrival of the Locally the middle syllable is strongly accented little prince on Saturday evening, it may interest your and the last syllable often sounded much like dz. readers to be reminded of the old sayingNo doubt the spelling with an e was once used in
Under the stars, on the eve of St. John,
Lucky the babe that those stars sbine on ! the island as well as in England, but it is obsolete now. See all official documents emanating from and hope that it may indeed be fulfilled in bis case.” the colony. HERBERT STURMER. Can any one tell me whence this saying is taken ?
TAE SECOND WIFE OF SIR JOHN TALBOT Queries.
(1630–1714), or LACOCK ABBEY.-Sbe was, as is We must request correspondents desiring information well known, Barbara, only daughter of Sir Henry on family matters of only privato interest to affix their Slingshy, Bart., of Scriven, who was beheaded for names and addresses to their queries, in order that the his loyalty in 1658. Can any informant greatly answers may be addressed to thom direct.
oblige me by stating the date and the place of her CHARLES WALMESLEY.-A friend has lent me
marriage? It must have taken place between the his copy of 'A New Theatrical Dictionary,' Lon-pears 1656 and 1661, because Sir John's first wife, don, 1792, a work very well known to collectors because Frances Talbot, an infant daughter by his
Elizabeth Keyt, lived till the former year, and and of no great esteem ; but the copy in question
second marriage, was buried at Isleworth on is enhanced in value by interesting annotations
June 13, 1662. and varied information in MS. by one Charles Walmesley, to whom the book formerly belonged. down to the two years 1660 and 1661, if we may
The possible period can be further narrowed I shall be grateful to any of your readers who may rely on the correctness of the letter “S” in the be able to give me particulars of Charles Walmes-initials “B. S.” under Barbara's letter_(to her ley, as I am ignorant of any interest, literary or brother Sir Thomas Slingsby), dated Feb. 18, otherwise, attaching to him.
1659/60, printed at pp. 355-6 of Sir Henry Ware Priory.
Slingsby's 'Diary,' edited by the Rev. D. Parsons.
For these two years I have searched the Bishop SIR ALEXANDER BURNES.—May I ask you to of London's, the Vicar General's, and the Faculty allow me to inquire through the pages of ‘N. & Q' marriage licences, also the registers of all the for information as to the family of Sir Alexander likely London parishes and of Knaresborough, Burnes, the traveller and political officer ? As is without success.
MALCOLM Low. well known, Sir Alexander and his brother were 22, Roland Gardens, S.W. murdered at Kabul on the same day; but I believe they were members of a large family. I am anx
Easter SEPULCHRES. -I should be obliged by ious to be placed in communication with the present nected there with, and their decoration. I espe
some information on these, the ceremonies conrepresentative of the family, in order to ask for information which is likely to be found in the cially want to learn something of the wooden letters written by Sir Alexander Burnes to his movable erections going by the same name; and if
any still exist, and where they are. A gentleman relations during the last few months of his life. HUGH PEARSE, Major.
near Rugby is said to possess one from Kilsby 103, Strada Vescovo, Valletta, Malta.
Churcb, Northamptonshire ; but I am unable to
locate it. In making one on old lines, how would “SOJOURNARS”: “Advena." - In a parish register one proceed as to measurements, shape, decoration I am reading I frequently find persons marked as (by painting, bangings around it, &c.)? How "Sojournars." Does this indicate that they had would the stand on which it is set be constructed ? no settlement in the parish for poor law purposes ?
H. FEASEY. In one case a death entry has a marginal note
11, Festing Road, Putney, S.W. “Advena." What does this word convey ?
NELTHORP FAMILY.—John Nelthorp and James JECEP.
Nelthorp were elected Members for Beverley in SOURCE OF QUOTATION.- I shall be obliged by 1645. The first was a barrister of Gray's Inn, and information as to what book contains the fol. was "secluded ” in December, 1648; the other lowing passage, or something similar, and what was a mercer and grocer of Beverley, and mayor reign is referred to. “Old king, old ministers, in 1641. Being a more extreme Parliamentarian, old courtiers, old generals, old poets, old musicians, he sat until the dissolution of 1653. Were these
two M P.s identical respectively with “ John and contributed to the Academy for nearly forty Nelthorp of Barton-upon-Humber” and “James years, namely, from 1786 to 1823 ? I appeal in Nelthorp of Bartholomew Close, London,” the vain to dictionaries of painters and biographies, third and fifth sons of Edward Nelthorp, of Glass and the Royal Academy knows nothing of bim. ford Briggs, Lincoln ? (Vide Kimber's 'Baronetage,' Any facts, however sligat, will be valued. ii. 331.) John Nelthorp, of Beverley, was ad.
A, D. mitted to Gray's Inn Nov. 19, 1634, the same day Rev. EDWARD Woodcock, LL.D. (temp. 1735as (? his cousin) “John Nelthorp, second son of 1792).- 1 shall be very glad of any biographical Richard Neltborp, of Glanfordbridge, co. Lincoln” details concerning this gentleman. He is buried (Foster's ‘Register'). The latter was created a in the chancel of West Haddon Church, Northbaronet in 1666, a dignity that became extinct in amptonshire. A tablet to bis memory formerly 1865. The registers of St. James's, Clerkenwell, occupied a position on the north chancel wall, but contain several Nelthorp entries, but relating mostly, it would seem, to the family of Sir God was, with others, removed a few years ago to make
room for the organ chamber. It bas now been dard, second baronet.
W. D. Pink. - placed about the centre on the north aisle wall. .“ During.”—Is it quite correct to use “during: It bears the following inscription : with reference to a point of time and the occurrence
Sacred to the memory
of the Rev. Edward Woodcock, LL.D. of a particular event ? Should the word not always
Vicar of Watford in the county of Hertford denote continuity of existence or action? Yet we
and Rector of the united Parishes of are constantly coming upon such a sentence as
St. Michael, Wood Street, this : “Two books of different classes of interest and St. Mary Steyning, in the City of London. have been issued during the week” (Saturday
He married Hannah' the only surviving Daughter of Review of June 16, p. 628). Does this not mean
Thomas Whitfield Esq' late of this place :
and had by her sour Sons and ten Daughters that the process of issuing took the entire week for of whom the youngest Son and eight Daughters have its consummation ? The books appeared at some
survived their most excellent father : time, or times, in the course of the week; but, He departed this life upon the 6th of June 1792 aged 57. unless the publication were protracted through
This monument is erected by his Widow out six days, it is surely inexact to say that they
to testify her affectionate regard for her most beloved
Husband were issued “during the week,"
and to perpetuate the Memory of the best of Men, Thomas BAYNE.
Also, near this place are deposited the remains Helensburgh, N.B. :
of Edward Whitfield Woodcock Esq"
their second Son who departed this Life GREEN HOUSE, KENSINGTON GARDENS.— I have
the 224 of September 1779 : read that the Green House in Kensington Gardens,
Aged 21. in which George II, took so much pleasure, was
The West Haddon register of burials conthe work of Inigo Jones. In 1815 it underwent tains the following entry :complete repair, after having been neglected for so “ 1792, June 16th. The Rev. Edward Woodcock, LL.D. long a time that it had become quite dilapidated. buried in the chancel.” Is ankihing known of this Green House ? 'Does it A tablet to the memory of Mrs. Woodcock has still exist?
C. A. Waite. also been removed from the porth chancel wall to HEDGEHOG'S JAWBONE FOR EYE-ACHE.— The
a position near the west end of the south aisle
wall. It bears the following inscription :peasants in Algarve, at least at Bensafrim, one of
Sacred to the memory the most archeological of Portuguese villages, wear
of as a charm to cure pains in the eye the jawbone of
Hannah Woodcock a hedgehog which has received the benison of a widow of the Rev. Edward Woodcock, LL.D. priest. They wear it on the breast, suspended
who also is interred n this chancel. from a string round the neck. Does the same super
This stone is raised and inscribed by stition exist among the country folk in any parts
her su vieng Children
in token gt her: Virtues of the Britisb Islands ?
PALAMEDES. and of their dutiful Affection and Gratitude ;
She died deeply lamented GERMAN BANDS.— There is a belief in Suffolk
on the 1st ay of May that the advent of a German band to a village is
1796 the precursor of rain. In what other counties does
in the 64th year of her Age. a similar belief prevail ?
Any replies sent direct or through ‘N. & Q.' F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY. would be much appreciated. John T. PAGE. GEORGE SAMUEL.-Can any of your readers
5, Capel Terrace, Southend-on-Sea, favour me with information as to the life and work Poems of RICHARD VERSTEGAN.-Have these of George Samuel, a landscape painter, who was ever been collected and edited in modern times? born in the latter half of the eighteenth century, From the specimen given in Mr. Orby Shipley's
* Carmina Mariana' and the scraps quoted in Mr. these, eight persons were ninety years of age and Gillow's St. Thomas's Priory, Stafford,' they seem upwards ; seven over eighty years ; eighteen over well worthy of introduction to the modern reader. seventy years; and seven over sixty years-cer
K. P. D. E. tainly remarkable figures for a small district. Can Norris or Norreys.—Sir Thomas Norris, a any readers having access to newspaper files find
W. COGHILL younger sop of Lord Norris, of Rycote, was Lord a parallel ? President of Munstor, temp. Elizabeth. Whom
Ifracombe, N. Devon. did he marry ?
His daughter Elizabeth was married to Sir John Jephson, but I cannot discover her mother's name.
JOAN I, OF NAPLES.
(8th S. v. 261, 301, 369, 429, 509.) ander Cromwell in Ireland now known to be ex While painstaking Giuseppe de Blasiis has not tant, in print or MS.; also any list of officers who been able to discover even the name of Fra Roberto served under William III, about the time of the in any state paper or contemporary chronicle, battle of Augbrim; and where respectively to be excellent Matteo Camero has succeeded in proving seen? Or is there information on these subjects to MR. BADDELEY's entire satisfaction that it was in any work on the Cromwellian settlement of the wily friar who, acting on instructions received Ireland ?
H. Y. POWELL. from Hungary, incited Andrew to seize the crown. 17, Bayswater Terrace, Lancaster Gate,
We are told that he was opposed in this purpore by
Joan, who endeavoured to strictly fulfil her grandHELMERAWE FAMILY.- I should be much obliged father's will, which purposely excluded Andrew to any correspondent who could give me informa- from the sovereign position, and in so doing—MR. tion respecting the family of Helmerawe. It is BADDELEY surmises—she doubtless acted in accord. evidently a place name, and apparently a Durham apce with the advice of Queen San cia, “the sur one. There was a John de Helmerawe at Hesilden, viving widow of that beloved monarch." Thi co. Durbam, in 1384, who had land of the prior. reads
as if King Robert had left more than on A Leonard Helmerawe, of Evenwood, co. Durham, widow. circa 1550, married a Hall of Birtley; and a Unfortunately for excellent Signor Matteo Thomas Helmerawe, 1580-1620, was living at Camera's theory, there are no fewer than four letters Keverston, co. Durham ; since when the pedigree extant in the Vatican collection, all dated Febis clear. is it possible that the present Helming- ruary 2, 1344 (iv. nonas Feb. Anno ii.), in which ton Row, co. Durham, was the place of origin ? the Pope informs the addressees tbat-yielding to
Thos. HELMER. the solicitations of King Louis of Hungary, Queen OXFORD CAMBRIDGE. — In Abraham
Elizabeth, his mother, Queen Joan herself, Queen Ortelius, “His Epitome of the Theater of the Sancia, her grandmother, and the archbishops, Worlde, 1603, it is stated in the “ Description of bishops, nobles, &c., of the kingdom of Sicily—it Englande": "Oxford and Cambridge and the was resolved in the Consistory held on January 19, which as Ancient writters recorde were the two to grant Andrew permission to have himself firste Academies after the deathe of or Savior crowned and anointed king. The resolution was Christe.” Is this recorded; and by whom ?
moved by Aymerich, Cardinal of St. Martinus in W. A. HENDERSON.
Montibus,* Here is an ounce of fact against
Camera's tons of theory. HEAVING : LIFTING.—Is heaving or lifting a Aymerich, the reader will remember, was the custom amongst the continental peasantry? I ask shepherd sent by the Pope to Naples for the prothe question because the Rev. S. Baring-Gould tection of his two pet lambs, Joan and her sister. says, in a note on p. 65 of W. Henderson's ' Folk- But as, in the elder lambkin's opinion, the cardinal's lore of the Northern Counties of England’(1866), protection was wholly superfluous, and the fun that "the same custom prevails in the Pyrenees, enjoyed by her in the company of the wolves no where I have been lifted by a party of stout Basque doubt far more to her taste when the shepherd damsels.” My question is not prompted by idle was absent than when he was present, the cardinal, curiosity; and if the custom prevail, I shall be glad “ic peded by Queen Joan" in every way, had no to have referencer, though I need hardly say that alternative but to resign his post and leave the I do not want references to the custom in England. kingdom.
PAUL BIERLEY. I am sorry to be obliged to disappoint MR. LOCAL LONGEVITY.—The North Devon Journal BADDELEY by telling him that the story of Anof Jan. 18 contains a list of sixty-five deaths, all * Regest. Vat. Pontif. Clem. VI., vol. cxxxvii occurring between Jan. 5 and 17, in the district Nos. 672-675. Cf. also the Pope's letter to Andrew. within about twenty miles of Barnstaple. Of Jan. 19, 1344 (Ibid., No. 1221).
drew's death, as related by the Modena Chronicle, As regards Joan's privity to the crime of her was not new, but well known to me long before consort's murder, MR. BADDELEY's ways of pleadbe announced the discovery. When, however, in ing on her behalf are unique if ingenious. the first part of his communication he forewarned As Alphonse Karr would say, “ Mesdames les his readers to be prepared for a fresh development Assassines," please note that if there be grave in the story, as he held in reserve another account circumstantial evidence of having killed your bus. of the murder by a contemporary chronicler, far bands against you, of such “a
peculiar nature” more convincing to his mind than Gravina, I cer- that the best of advocates could not save your tainly was not prepared to see the Modena pecks,“ deny the accusation indignantly,” make Chronicle's version produced. I trust MR. lavish use of "substantial expressions of grief," BADDELEY can be induced to see in what an ex- state that you “ have been paralyzed by the blow," tremely delicate situation he has thereby placed “ write and send envoys "to the victim's brother, not only himself, but also the queen whose cause putting yourself upon his protection, have the body he has espoused. MR. BADDELEY himself confesses of the victim removed for burial that the elaborate account of the Duke of Durazzo's practicable," and pay " for masses to be said daily secret marriage given by this “far more con- for the repose of bis soul.” Further, promptly vincing” chronicler is wholly a fabrication, and give effect to any edict authorizing judicial that the orations so glibly and constantly put by severities to be taken against anybody else save him into the mouths of his characters are as long yourselves, professing all the time not to know and as elaborate as if some one bad taken them anything about the murder; but on no account down in shorthand. Yet (can it be believed ?) face a trial, and leave the place in a huff if any MR. BADDELEY accepts this obviously prevaricating judge dare have the impudence to cite you perempwriter's version of the murder, and summarily torily. If your would-be judge should at the same rejects Joan's own account thereof as communicated time be looking out for some landed property, and bý her in the "quasi-official” letter addressed to you should be in a position to be able to gratify the Republic of Florence. Both versions cannot his wish, so much the better. possibly be true, because, whereas according to the According to MR. BADDELEY it was on the subchronicler Joan heard the struggle and screamed stantial expressions of grief contained in her letters "Open the door!" Geoffroy, one of the conspirators, to Avignon that Clement and his advisers based all the time pointing his knife to her throat, the largely their belief in the queen's innocence. But queen, in her letter to the Republic of Florence, if he will peep at p. 89 of Wills's Principles of on the other hand, professes to bave been wholly Circumstantial Evidence' he will find that “the ignorant of what was going on outside her bed- officious affectation of grief and concern is a wellchamber, and not to have heard of the murder till known "artifice to prevent or avert suspicion." the nurse informed her that she had found Andrew's
in face of these facts I fear that, unless MR. body, with the rope round its neck, on the lawn BADDELEY can produce more substantial proofs of below. This “diversity of description" cannot Joan's innocence, the guilt of Andrew's murder will very well be reconciled by a supercilious reference have to "continue to hang picturesquely on the to "The Ring and the Book,' unless one reads the shoulders of the young, beautiful, and muchtwo accounts with one's capo figuratively in a tempted queen.' sacco. If an accused person's statement, in which
MR. BADDELEY rallies me for having stated she tries to exculpate herself, is disbelieved even that he had devoted to the subject of Joan's 80by her own counsel, that person's case, I fear, is called “trial” a whole chapter, and pleads that I getting desperate.
ought to bave deducted all pages containing exI made, it seems, a very good guess when I traneous matters. But if we were to apply the stated that perhaps MR. BADDELEY had not dipped same boiling-down process to the contents of the very deeply into his Muratori. If he had done whole book there would not be left much of 80 he would, no doubt, have left the Modena · Joanna 1.' According to the opinion of the Chronicle severely alone and pounced upon the English Historical Review, the book version furnished by the Este Chronicle (‘R.I.S.,'
" consists of a series of diffuse sketches and essays on xv. 445) in preference. It was this account various historical points which are not always closely (strictly expurgated, of course) that I thought Mr. related to the life of his heroine, and which convey & BADDELEY had in view when promising his minimum of historical information with a maximum of readers a new version of the story.
cheap eloquence." MR. BADDELEY credits me with having given I quote this opinion in order to prove that want undue importance to the account of the murder of space cannot be urged as an excuse for the supplied by Gravina. If he will kindly refer to my wholly inadequate treatment of the subject, and note again he will see that I simply pointed to the that MR. BADDELEY and I are not the only people fact that his account was merely an expurgated who are dissatisfied with the book. The chapter version of that Ghibelline chronicler's narrative. io question is headed "Queen Joanna at Avignon,"