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the Olden Time,' by W. Chappell, pp. 539, 604). What makes any of these a Norfolk song"? There are several places of the name in England, but I find no Bradley in Norfolk. There is one in Suffolk. The ballad is too long for transcription here. JULIAN MARSHALL.

TITLE OF NOVEL WANTED (7th S. v. 488).-Is not the title of the book which TATTON asks for 'Woman's Friendship: a Story of Domestic Life,' by Grace Aguilar, author of 'Home Influence' (London, Groombridge & Sons, 1850)? The plot of this novel is such as TATTON describes. The brother and sister, Frank Howard and Florence Leslie, after falling in love with each other, are prevented from marrying by the tyranny of Lord Glenvylle, who eventually is discovered to be the father of both. C. W. PENNY.

Wellington College.

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JOHN HAMILTON (7th S. v. 467).-If this author died, as is said, in 1814, none of his descendants nor any one else can now own the copyright of any of his works, the latest of which must have expired more than thirty years ago. According to the present law the shortest possible term of duration of copyright in England is forty-two years; but it may be very much longer, namely, from date of publication until seven years after the author's death, e. g., a man may publish a book in his twentieth year and die at the age of one hundred, in which case his copyright will last for 80+7 =eighty-seven years. Hamilton died, according to 0. M. M. B., in 1814; consequently, even on the assumption that he published nothing till the very last year of his life, his copyright expired forty-two years after his death, i. e., in 1856 copyright of anything published earlier would, of course, have expired at a proportionately earlier date.

F. N.

It does not seem possible that O. M. M. B. should have attempted to make any reference to books on the subject of copyright before writing to 'N. & Q.' There is no distinction between poetry and prose in the law of copyright; and, as the longest period allowed is either forty-two years from publication or the author's life and seven years after, whichever of the two may be the longer period, it is merely a question in arithmetic, and the answer in the given case must be, No copyright is now in existence in the poems of John Hamilton; therefore there can be no address of the present owner of such copyright: that of the last registered owner should be obtainable at Sta

tioners' Hall.


THE SARUM MISSAL (7th S. v. 480).—The Sarum Missal was not first printed, as here stated, in 1492, at Rouen. It is now more than fourteen years since Mr. Blades gave a full description in in the Athenæum (March 21, 1874) of an edition printed at Paris in 1487. It is also recorded by Mr. Maskell in his 'Monumenta Ritualia,' vol. i. p. lxix (second edition, 1882). Nor is it quite correct to say that only one copy is known to exist of the edition of 1492, for, in addition to the perfect copy in the British Museum (which formerly belonged to Mr. Maskell), there is an imperfect copy (also on vellum) in the Bodleian Library. F. NORGATE.

WAS SHAKSPEARE AN ESQUIRE? (7th S. v. 369, 478.)-I saw with interest an inquiry some weeks ago as to whether Shakespeare was an esquire on account of his being the eldest son of a grantee of arms. I am with regard to pedigree situated much in the same way as the "immortal bard," since I am also the eldest son of a grantee of arms. And, to carry the parallel further, just as Shakespeare's mother was an heiress of Arden, so my great-grandmother was an heiress of the Grosvenors of Drayton, a younger branch of the Duke of Westminster's family. Consequently I have the permission of the Heralds' College to quarter many very ancient and interesting coats with my bran new paternal bearings.

I may add that there is a fabulous version of the pedigree of my family, which has found its way into a county history and various genealogical works, which cannot be proved in the College. Hence the necessity for the new grant above mentioned. W. G. TAUNTON.

HIDE (7th S. v. 306).-In the following passage there is an allusion to a way of using the hide which I do not remember to have seen noticed elsewhere:

"But the gentlemen, and thei of higher degree, handle the hide after another maner. Thei cut it out into very fine thonges, to as muche lengthe as thei can, and measure oute as muche grounde about the Sepulchre as the thonge wille stretche vnto. For so muche ground thincke thei shall the deade haue in a nother worlde."-Hakluyt, Navigations, Voyages,' &c., vol. vi. p. 145, ed. E. and G. Goldsmid, 1888.

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MOTION OF THE SUN (7th S. v. 426).—Mr. Dobson's computation was very moderate. Less than two hundred years later the author of that happily conceived book 'Benedicite,' Dr. Child Chaplin, wrote:—

"That our sun-like all his fellow-stars-is travelling through space with a speed which, though not yet determined, is certainly immense, is a point on which astronomers are agreed. Recent estimates assign to it rate of four miles per second. Whither are we hurrythese problems must be left to future observers; yet ing-round what are we moving? The full solution of


even now observations tend to indicate that we are

hastening on through space in the direction of the constellation Hercules. Who has not gazed on clear nights at the twinkling Pleiades, and tried, perhaps, to count their sparkles as they glittered like diamonds on a field of black. Their name recalls a heathen fable, but they

have for us an interest far more fascinating, if it be true, as astronomers conjecture, that among them is fixed the pivot which is central to the centre and round which our sun with its entire planetary system careers in an orbit whose length it is even more difficult for us to conceive than the distance of the stars themselves."-"Benedicite,' third edition, 1869, pp. 65, 66.


Mannering,' denies that Dandie had any actual
prototype. He says that a dozen at least of
stout Liddesdale yeomen" whom he had met
might have sat for the portrait.

Such experiences as those of a NOVELIST are not unusual among writers of fiction. I know of one who was asked by a lady if she were intended by a certain character which in the author's estimation scarcely resembled her in the least. The blunders of reviewers are even more amusing. Has no one ever made a collection of them? A reviewer once charged the author of an historical tale with six blunders or anachronisms, as displaying lamentable ignorance, five of which were the pure product of his own lively imagination. One was particularly outrageous, blaming the writer for having repre

REBECCA (7th S. v. 328, 457).—If the writer in the Century, for September, 1882, knows positively that the original of Rebecca was the Jewish lady of Philadelphia whom he mentions, there is no more to be said; otherwise, I should be much more inclined to agree with your correspondent a NOVELIST that Rebecca had not any actual proto-sented Henry VI. as reading Wycliffe's Bible, type. The following passage in Lockhart's 'Life of Scott' (ed. 1869, vol. vi. pp. 177, 178) throws some light on the question, although it does not settle it:

"The introduction of the charming Jewess and her father originated, find, in a conversation that Scott held with his friend Skene during the severest season of his bodily sufferings in the early part of this year [1819]. 'Mr. Skene,' says that gentleman's wife, 'sitting by his bedside, and trying to amuse him as well as he could in the intervals of pain, happened to get on the subject of the Jews, as he had observed them when he spent some time in Germany in his youth. Their situation had naturally made a strong impression; for in those days they retained their own dress and manners entire, and were treated with considerable austerity by their Christian neighbours, being still locked up at night in their own quarter by great gates; and Mr. Skene, partly in seriousness, but partly from the mere wish to turn his mind at the moment upon something that might occupy and divert it, suggested that a group of Jews would be an interesting feature if he could contrive to bring them into his next novel.' Upon the appearance of Ivanhoe he reminded Mr. Skene of this conversation, and said, You will find this book owes not a little to your German reminiscences.'

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See some remarks on Rebecca's character by Scott himself in the introduction to 'Ivanhoe.' There is a very interesting story connected with Rebecca which I know well, but as I cannot find it in Lockhart's 'Life,' I suppose I must have read it somewhere else. When Scott was dictating 'Ivanhoe'-one of the few of his works that he dictated -to his friend William Laidlaw, he said, "I shall make something of my Jewess, Willie." Laidlaw replied, "You will indeed," and he went on to speak of the "sweet and noble tales" which Scott was giving to the world, &c. Scott was quite affected. Perhaps some one of your readers may remember who tells this story. It may be Lockhart, but I cannot find the reference.

which in all probability he never saw. The fact was that Wycliffe's Bible was not mentioned, and the book which the king was alleged to be reading was his own Latin Psalter, now among the Cottonian MSS. It might have been thought tolerably safe to represent a man as reading a book which he undoubtedly possessed; but writers are never safe from reviewers, especially when governed by an animus, political or theological. HERMENTRUDE.

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HUSSAR PELISSE (7th S. v. 287, 354, 398).—Of course any jacket or cloak trimmed with fur may be termed a pelisse," but this word has usually been reserved for a larger garment than the distinguishing one of Hussar regiments, which is usually termed "jacket." I had hoped that the inquiry made at the first reference concerning the origin of the "empty sleeve" would have elicited the full story, concerning which I remember a positive, but hazy tradition. As this is not the case, I will state the small remainder in my memory, which may serve as a spark to light up the full flame in that of some one else.

All over the south of Europe, where the sudden change of temperature at sundown renders a handy wrap desirable, it is customary for the workers in the fields to take with them when they go out in the mild morning a jacket, hung for convenience over one shoulder, ready for use at sundown. This is not peculiar to Hungary; I have seen it certainly in general use there, but also to an equal extent in Bohemia, in the south of France, in South Tirol, in Spain, and in Italy.

The story which seems so familiar to me, but the details of which my memory fails to grasp, connecting the adoption of this custom with the Hussar uniform, is that on occasion of some great With regard to another of Scott's most famous battle in the south-east of Europe (? Bohemia, personages, Dandie Dinmont, the character became Bavaria, Austria, Hungary), a rough-and-ready popularly associated with a certain James David-peasant regiment that was lying at ease (the en cas Bon of Hindlee; but Scott, in the notes to 'Guy jacket on one shoulder, after the common manner

of the southern peasant), being by a surprise of the enemy suddenly called into the field, mounted their horses so readily, without stopping to equip themselves properly, and distinguished themselves so splendidly in action, that it was resolved to commemorate their gallantry by making their adventitious costume the future uniform of their regiment. A traditional reputation thus established naturally led to imitation by other countries, including our own. What was this battle?


I am much obliged to N. R., to L. L. K., and

COL. HAROLD MALET for their information about
Hussar dress. But the origin in our English army
of the second jacket is not made clear. That it is
still worn I infer from a coloured picture that was
published with the Illustrated News, May 21,
1887, of the Queen's Jubilee Drawing-room. One
prominent figure is an Hussar with the empty
sleeve jacket.
A. B.

PORTRAITS (7th S. v. 449). In reply to Mr.
PINK'S query, I can answer, so far as regards
Sir Baptist Hicks, that there is no engraving of
his portrait now in the Sessions House. When,
some years ago, I had copy in oils taken, I was
given permission to do so on the distinct engage-
ment on my part that I would not have the picture
recopied or engraved.

THE SONS OF EDWARD III. (7th S. v. 468).They were seven in number, born in the following order :

5. Edmund, born at King's Langley-otherwise known as Chilterne or Children's Langley, from the nursery palace there-June 5, 1341.

6. William, born at Windsor, June, 1348; buried in Westminster Abbey, Sept. 5, 1348 (Roll of the Great Wardrobe, 21-23 Edw. III., 38/2).

7. Thomas, born at Woodstock, Jan. 7, 1354 (Mrs. E. Green), 1355 (Stow, Dugdale, Barnes, Anderson, &c.).

The dates to which no authority is added are undisputed. Shakspere's order, as will be seen,

is incorrect.


There are conflicting statements about Edward's sons. In 2 Henry VI. Act II. sc. ii. lines 10-17, Richard, Duke of York, founding his claim to the throne, gives the list in the following order (to which I append the dates :-(1) Edward, the Black Prince, of Wales (1330-76); (2) William_ of Hatfield (1336-44); (3) Lionel of Antwerp, Duke of Clarence (1338-68); (4) John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster (1340-99; (5) Edmund of Langley, Duke of York (1341-1402); (6) Thomas of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester (1355-97); "William of Windsor was the seventh and last" (died young).



In Hume's corrected English History another son is referred to, also a William, who died in 1335, and who must, therefore, have been the second son, and died before the next William-" of Hatfield" was born. There were thus three Williams, only one of whom reached his eighth year, 1. Edward the Black Prince, at Woodstock, my knowledge of families I have never known a viz., William of Hatfield. It is strange, but in 1330. According to all the chroniclers and gene- child survive who was called after another prealogists, his birth took place on June 15; but viously dead. Edward III. and Queen Philippa the Issue Roll (Pasc. 4 Edw. III.) records pay-are also stated to have had five daughters. ments of the expenses of the queen's churching on the 24th and 28th of April. This provision was doubtless made beforehand, since a Roll of the Great Wardrobe (4-5 Edw. III., 34/13) records the purchase of seven cloths of red velvet for the queen's uprising robe at Woodstock in July, 1330; yet it is difficult to believe that purchases for this ceremony would have been made and paid for before the prince was born by at least six weeks. "One great cradle, gilt, painted with the four Evangelists," price 12l. 13s. 4d., and one smaller cradle, gilt and painted, price 26s., were bought in June and July "for the Lord Edward, eldest son of the King, Earl of Chester" (Roll of Great Wardrobe, 4 Edw. III., 34/8).

2. William, born at Hatfield, 1334-1336, the exact date much disputed; died infant, before July 8tb, 1337; buried at York.

3. Lionel, born at Antwerp, Nov. 29, 1338. 4. John of Gaunt, born at Ghent, between Feb. 21 and June 27, 1340. Stow and Tyler say February; Beltz, Mar. 25-31; Mrs. Everett Green, June.

[Many other communications, for some of which space may ultimately be found, are acknowledged.]

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ROMAN WALL IN THE CITY (7th S. v. 466).— The paragraph relating to this relic of antiquity may be an extract" from the Echo, but if so it was taken without acknowledgment from the Times of April 27. I speak with certainty, as I am its author. E. WALFORD, M.A.

I do not know why a ? should be put after the "Bull and Mouth Hotel" in the quotation from the Echo with reference to the above. This was the original name of what has been carried on for some years as the "Queen's Hotel," but has so many reminiscences connected with it in the old coaching days that I should have thought every one would have known its history independently of its having the old carving in its front of the "Bull and Mouth." By the way, what has become of this historical "bit"? EDW. I. DUNN.

Lonsdale Road, Barnes.

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It is a popular idea that the custom of standing during the reading of the Lord's Prayer when it is said as part of the lesson of the day was originated by George III., who, the first time that he attended church after his recovery from one of his serious illnesses, immediately arose, and stood until it was finished. Surely the custom can boast of a greater antiquity! JOHN CHURCHILL SIKES.

50, Agate Road, The Grove, Hammersmith, W.

This is a common practice in Lancashire. I can speak of it as usual in and about Ormskirk and Leigh; also at the Magnificat.


I have known the custom of standing up at the reading of the Lord's Prayer in the second lesson for more than fifty years, and never saw it omitted, save in one country church, years ago, where I read the lesson, and was surprised to find that the congregation kept their seats; but that was in the dark ages. R. P. H.

This custom is not so uncommon as H. G. J. DE S. seems to think. It is, or up to very lately has been, observed in two churches within the parish of Paddington. G. F. R. B.

MR. JUSTICE ROKEBY (7th S. v. 448).-C. E. P. is informed that the diary of Mr. Justice Rokeby, 1688-97, has been privately printed in the present year, from a MS. in the possession of Sir Henry Peek, Bart. A copy was presented to the Library of the Hon. Society of Lincoln's Inn.

Lincoln's Inn,


Has C. E. P. seen "The Diary of Mr. Justice Rokeby, printed from a MS. in the possession of Sir Henry Peek, Bart."? It has lately been privately printed by Sir Henry Peek, with a preface, dated" November 16, 1887," and signed "William Boyd." G. F. R. B.

LINDSEY HOUSE (7th S. v. 343).-When will writers distinguish the difference between an architect and a builder? Inigo Jones may have "designed" this house, but he certainly did not "build" it. Remembering that there was an engraving of it in Campbell's 'Vitruvius Britannicus,' published 1717, I found on reference that two plans and an elevation are given (vases are shown on the balustrade at top), and that it is stated that it was built 1640, and "extending 62 feet." The short description does not state if the front be of

brick or stone. The house with the plaster façade and two large brick piers next the pavement is now numbered 59 and 60, the former single central entrance having been made into two doorways. The 62 ft. frontage is about right, while the other frontage (Nos. 57 and 58) is about 58 ft. 6 in. The elevation is lined over with fine horizontal lines. This might represent brickwork, or it might have been done merely to relieve the pilasters. Whether these pilasters, together with the door and window dressings, are of stone, or are likewise of stucco, requires a careful examination. I always understood that No. 59 was Lindsey House.

Who "murdered Jansen's centre to Northumberland House"; and which centre; that of the façade next Charing Cross, or of the house itself behind? It is not usually known that the former was rebuilt 1748-52, from the design of Daniel Garrett, architect, and was "completely destroyed by fire March 18, 1780." Spencer House was designed by John Vardy about 1763. The front in St. James's Place is by "Athenian" Stuart, and of about the same date.


The so-called Jones's "glorious watergate" was assuredly the design and workmanship of Nicholas Stone, the sculptor. Why is any credit given to Inigo Jones for Great Queen Street? The only old building in it of any note is by his pupil, John Webb. I had always understood that Jones's "beautiful St. Paul's" was detestable work. restorations to that building have not generally met with approval, except as to the portico, which was of grand proportions. Your contributor is, perhaps, not aware that the stonework of the Banqueting House was entirely renewed in 1829-30, under the direction of that eminent architect Sir John Soane, R.A., with great attention to the original work, so much so as evidently to deceive your contributor, who is too severe on the museum of that architect, for it has merits of design far above the average, and whose other designs are equal, if not superior, to any put forward by that other great master in architecture, Inigo Jones.


WILLS OF SUICIDES: SUICIDED (7th S. v. 86, 197, 416).-Suicided is an Americanism which I have frequently seen in United States and Canadian newspapers; tempested I have not yet seen, but on opening a recent Canadian paper I came on one equally novel. I read that "the editor of the Moncton Transcript has been jailed for his contempt of court." ROBERT F. GARDINER.


Pride, Howe'er disguised in his own majesty, Is littleness, &c. The lines are Wordsworth's, and are found in one of his Poems written in Youth,' beginning, "Nay, Traveller! rest," &c. FREDK, RULE.



early editions of Perrault are hard to get. His tales are, of course, included in the famous Cabinet des Fées,' and illustrated editions have fetched fancy prices. What will, however, establish this edition in public favour is the prefatory matter of Mr. Lang, supplying not only all known biographical particulars concerning the author and much bibliographical information as to his works, but essays upon the stories and analogues drawn from various literatures. The whole is, indeed, an original and attractive contribution to comparative folk-lore, and puts forward in very attractive guise some of Mr. Lang's well-known views on these subjects.

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The Book of Noodles: Stories of Simpletons. By W. A.
Clouston. (Stock.)
MR. CLOUSTON'S Book of Noodles' is likely to be one
of the most popular, as it is certainly one of the most
thorough of the series-"The Book Lover's Library
to which it belongs. It is a study of the legends of
various countries concerning simpletons of the order of
the oxoλaorikos of Greece and the men of Gotham of
England. In comparative folk-lore Mr. Clouston has
few superiors, and the analogues to the stories he gives
are collected from very varied literature, European and
Asiatic. Apart from its scholarly value, which is great,
the book is delightful reading. It wiles the reader on,
and there are few who, having begun, will leave off until
the last page is turned. Mr. Clouston's is, fortunately for
66 a household name "9
announcement of a new and characteristic work from
our readers,
in 'N. & Q.,' and the
his pen is sufficient recommendation.

The Encyclopædic Dictionary. Vol. VII. Part I. (Cas-
sell & Co.)

Dictionary of National Biography. Edited by Leslie Stephen. Vol. XV. Diamond-Drake. (Smith, Elder & Co.) WITH exemplary punctuality the fifteenth volume of this great work has now appeared, and something not far short of a third of the labour may be regarded as accomplished. A new and useful feature, to be continued in subsequent volumes, is now first seen. This consists of an index to the volume. At first sight it might be thought that an alphabetical index to a book the arrangement of which is alphabetical is to some extent a superfluity. Let one 80 thinking turn to the name Douglas in the present volume, and the error will be recanted. More than a quarter of its pages are occupied with this name, and the difficulty of tracing a member of that illustrious family without the index would necessarily be considerable. For a large proportion of these lives Dr. Eneas Mackay, whose labours must have been heavy, is responsible. The volume opens with an account of Dr. Diamond, well known to readers of the early volumes of N. & Q.' Very early in it appears a memoir of Charles Dickens, which has been written with excellent judgment and tact by the editor. Dodd, the forger, is also from the editorial pen, as is Bubb Dodington, afterwards Lord Melcombe. In lucidity and conciseness these biographies are models. Of those contributed by Mr. S. L. Lee, whose work is eminently careful, accurate, and scholarly, the most important are Kenelm Digby; Diodati, the friend of Milton; Roger Dodsworth; and Isaac D'Israeli. The great Disraeli is the subject of a long and, in the main, favourable life by Mr. T. E. Kebbel. Very early in the volume appears a very brightly-written life of T. J. Dibdin from the pen of the Rev. J. Woodfall Ebsworth. Sir George Downing is the most important biography by Mr. C. H. Firth; and George, second Earl of Bristol, that of Mr. G. F. R. Barker. The first Earl of Bristol is in the hands of Dr. Gardiner. The able account of Francis Douce is by Mr. A. H. Bullen, and the graceful pen of Mr. Austin Dobson supplies the life of Richard Doyle, somewhile illustrator of Punch. Among the many admirable contributions of Prof. Laughton the life of Sir Francis Drake is the most spirited and important. Mr. H. R. Tedder's contributions include 'OUR TRUE FOREIGN POLICY,' with which the Fortboth the Dodsleys, booksellers. Dr. Jessopp signs excel-nightly opens, is said to consist in strengthening our lent and comprehensive articles upon Donne, the poet, navy and entering the alliance of the central powers. and Sir Everard Digby. To a large number of contribu- A vindication of The Boulangist Movement' is by M. tions the initials of Mr. Thomson Cooper are fixed. Dr. Henri Rochefort. Mr. Swinburne writes on The MisGarnett writes on Prof. John Donaldson, and Prof. cellaneous Works of Ben Jonson.' Somewhat timidly Nichol, as is natural, is responsible for the memoir of his we venture to dissent from the estimate of Jonson's friend Sydney Dobell. Mr. Norman Maccoll supplies lyrical powers formed by so competent a judge. Mr. excellent accounts of the Wentworth Dilkes. Mr. Charles Andrew Lang writes on Lucian,' Mr. Herbert Spencer Kent writes on Hepworth Dixon and Count D'Orsay, on The Ethics of Kant,' Miss F. Mabel Robinson on and, with the aid of Mr. Alban Doran, upon Dr. Doran, Pawnbroking in England and Abroad,' and Mr. Edward editor of N. & Q.' The name of Thomas Dilke, the Carpenter has a wonderfully clever diatribe against dramatist, 1698, does not appear. It has some claim to 'Custom.'-The Nineteenth Century opens with Mr. be put in a supplement, should such see the light. Mean Gladstone's The Elizabethan Settlement of Religion.' time the progress of the dictionary is eminently satis- Sir William Hunter follows with a very judicious paper factory, and the general tone of the articles shows no on Our Missionaries,' Mr. Frederic Harrison's A falling off, but rather, it may be said, an improvement. Few Words about Picture Exhibitions' contains a strong condemnation of them and a fierce arraignment of much Perrault's Popular Tales. Edited from the Original modern French art. Prof. Tyndall tells A Story of Our Edition by Andrew Lang. (Clarendon Press.) Lighthouses. Lord Eustace Cecil, dealing with 'The THIS work is in some respects a curiosity. It is a Curse of our War Office,' declares it to be over-centralizareprint, to some extent in facsimile, of the 'Histoire ou tion. The Bishop of Colombo writes on 'Buddhism.' Contes du Temps Passé' of Perrault, 1697, and the Among the contributors are the French ambassador and Contes en Vers' of the same author, with prefatory Lord Armstrong. Capt. Hozier, in England's Real matter, &c., in English. With the rise in favour of folk- Peril,' contributed to Macmillan, is in favour of a bridge lore has come an awakened interest in fairy tales, and to the Continent, if such can be obtained. Mr. J. H.

THE seventh volume of this valuable dictionary opens with "Tas," and the first part ends with "Urbicolous." Conscious of its value, from constant application to it, we watch with pleasure the issue approach completion. No better proof of the value of the dictionary needs be sought than in the information given as regards history, chemistry, and commerce, all of which is equally complete. Under such compounds as "Town Clerk," "Town Council," &c., is found the kind of information sought in vain in ordinary works of reference. The value of illustrations such as are affixed to "Turbine and "Umbellifer" is not easily overrated.

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