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The PRESIDENT. It is not at present in order.

Mr. T. H. B. PATTERSON. I will state that under a resolution adopted a day or two ago the report of the Committee on the Judiciary was fixed for Monday at

eleven o'clock.

The PRESIDENT. It was.

Mr. T. H. B. PATTERSON. And there

The day was not agreed to.

The PRESIDENT. No other day being named, the committee has leave to sit on Monday next.

Mr. BROOMALL. I move that we adjourn.

Mr. W. H. SMITH. I move to amend the motion by saying that when we adfore there will be a conflict if we fix Mon- journ, we adjourn to meet to-morrow at day for this report.

Mr. DARLINGTON. May I be allowed to ask a question for information? Suppose that we vote for Monday, and this article not finished, would it not be competent to proceed with this?

The PRESIDENT. The Chair has nothing to do with it, and is very sorry to see the practice introduced here; but the effect of making a special order at a particular hour is, that at that hour the House are to be asked if they choose to proceed to the consideration of the article. If they do not choose to do it, of course they are not bound to do it; but if the House at that time should be in committee of the whole there can be nothing done with the special order until the committee rise.

Monday week is named, and Monday. The question will be put on the longest day first-Monday week.

ten o'clock.

Mr. BROOMALL. Is that amendment in order?

The PRESIDENT. It is not in order. Mr. W. H. SMITH. I ask leave to offer a resolution to that effect.

The PRESIDENT. The gentleman from Allegheny asks leave to offer a resolution. Shall he have leave?

["No!" "No!"]

Mr. BROOMALL. I object unless I know what it is.

The PRESIDENT. Leave is not given to offer the resolution.

Mr. J. W. F. WHITE. I move that the Convention adjourn.

The motion was agreed to, and at five o'clock and thirty-three minutes P. M., the Convention adjourned until Monday at ten o'clock A. M.

EIGHTY-SECOND DAY.

MONDAY, April 21, 1873.

The Convention met at ten o'clock A. M., Hon. Wm. M. Meredith, President, in the chair.

Prayer by Rev. J. W. Curry.

Smith, Wm. H., Struthers, Walker, White, David N., Woodward, Wright and Meredith, President—43.

NAYS.

Messrs. Baker, Broomall, Buckalew,

The Journal of Friday's proceedings was Cronmiller, Curry, Curtin, Dallas, Davis, read and approved.

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Mr. BIGLER advanced to the desk, and

Dunning, Ewing, Fell, Gibson, Gowen, Hanna, Harvey, Hemphill, Horton, Hunsicker, Kaine, Knight, Lilly, MacVeagh, Metzger, Minor, Newlin, Parsons, Read, ry W., Stanton, Temple, Wetherill, Jno. Price, Wherry, White, J. W. F. and Wor

John R., Rooke, Ross, Runk, Smith, Hen

rell-37.

having been duly sworn, took his seat in affirmative, and the resolution was read So the question was determined in the

the Convention.

PETITIONS AND MEMORIALS.

Mr. CAMPBELL presented a petition of merchants and others, citizens of Pennsylvania, praying for the adoption of certain sections of the railroad report, which was read and ordered to lie on the table. Mr. D. N. WHITE presented a petition praying for the prohibition of the manufacture and sale of intoxicating liquors, which was ordered to lie on the table.

DAILY SESSIONS.

The PRESIDENT. If there be no further memorials, original resolutions are in order.

Mr. D. N. WHITE offered the following resolution:

Resolved, That the Convention sit every day hereafter, except Sunday, until further orders.

On the question of proceeding to the second reading and consideration of the resolution, the yeas and nays were required by Mr. D. N. White and Mr. H. W. Smith, and were as follow, viz:

YEAS.

Messrs. Achenbach, Alricks, Armstrong, Baily, (Perry,) Barclay, Bigler, Boyd, Brown, Campbell, Carey, Carter, Cochran, Collins, Corbett, Darlington, De France, Dodd, Edwards, Fulton, Gilpin, Guthrie, Hall, Hay, Heverin, Howard, Landis, Lawrence, MacConnell, M'Allister, M'Murray, Mann, Mantor, Niles, Purviance, John N., Purviance, Sam'l A., Russell, Smith, H. G.,

the second time.

ABSENT.-Messrs. Addicks, Ainey, Andrews, Baer, Bailey, (Huntingdon,) Bannan, Bardsley, Bartholomew, Beebe, Biddle, Black, Charles A., Black, J. S., Bowman, Brodhead, Cassidy, Church, Clark, Corson, Craig, Cuyler, Elliott, Ellis, Finney, Funck, Green, Hazzard, Lamberton, Lear, Littleton, Long, M'Camant, M'Clean, M'Culloch, Mitchell, Mott, Palmer, G. W., Palmer, H .W., Patterson, D. W., Patterson, T. H. B., Patton, Porter, Pughe, Purman, Reed, Andrew, Reynolds, Sharpe, Simpson, Stewart, Turrell, Van Reed, Wetherill, J. M. and White, Harry-53.

Mr. LANDIS. Is it in order to amend the resolution?

The PRESIDENT. It is.

Mr. LANDIS. Then I move to amend the resolution by adding:

"Provided, The session on Saturday shall not continue longer than one o'clock."

Mr. WOODWARD. I hope the Convention will bear in mind that some of the standing committees have not yet prepared their reports, and under our present regulations Saturday is the only day left to them to deliberate. If the Convention sits on Saturdays there will be no time for them to prepare their reports.

Mr. S. A. PURVIANCE. I desire to ask the gentleman from Philadelphia what becomes of the afternoon from three to nine?

Mr. WOODWARD. From three to six or seven we sit bere.

On the question of agreeing to this amendment, the yeas and nays were reMr. S. A. PURVIANOE. Well, from five quired by Mr. Hay and Mr. Temple, and o'clock until nine?

Mr. WOODWARD. My answer to that question is, that under our present regulations we sit here from three o'clock until whatever hour we choose to adjourn five or six, or it may be seven or eight o'clock. Then there is no time after that to call a meeting of a standing committee. The gentlemen composing the committees are dispersed; they want to go to their dinners, and thus there is no time at the close of the afternoon for any committee to meet.

The Committee on Private Corporations, which I have specially in mind in these remarks, wants at least one day in the week, until it shall have prepared its report, and I should be very sorry, indeed, to have that committee deprived of the privilege of deliberating on Saturdays.

Mr. S. A. PURVIANCE. I move to amend the amendment, by striking out "one o'clock," and inserting "four o'clock.” The amendment to the amendment was rejected.

Mr. President:

Mr. WALKER. not know whether it will be in order now I do to move, as an amendment to that which is pending, a provision that there shall be but one session a day; and that from ten o'clock to three o'clock. If it is in order, and there can be an amendment proposed to the motion now pending, I would move then to amend so that we shall have cach day but one session, commencing at ten o'clock and ending at three o'clock.

Mr. D. N. WHITE. Make it four o'clock. Mr. WALKER. Well, four, then. The PRESIDENT. The motion to so amend would not be in order now, as it is not an amendment to the amendment. When the amendment pending is disposed of, it will then be competent for the gentleman from Erie to move his amendment. The question is upon the amendment, that on Saturday the session shall adjourn at one o'clock.

were as follow, viz:

YEAS.

Messrs. Achenbach, Addicks, Baker, Barclay, Bigler, Broomall, Buckalew, Carey, Curry, Curtin, Dallas, Davis, Dunning, Finney, Gowen, Guthrie, Hanna, Hemphill, Heverin, Kaine, Knight, Metzger, Mott, Parsons, Patterson, T. H. B., Read, John R., Rooke, Runk, Smith, H. G., Woodward and Wright―31.

NAYS.

(Perry,) Boyd, Brown, Campbell, Carter, Messrs. Alricks, Arinstrong, Baer, Baily, Cochran, Collins, Corbett, Cronmiller, Darlington, De France, Dodd, Edwards, Ewing, Fell, Fulton, Gibson, Gilpin, Hall, Harvey, Hay, Horton, Howard, Hunsicker, Landis, Lawrence, Lilly, MacConnell, Minor, Newlin, Niles, Purviance, John MacVeagh, M'Murray, Mann, Mantor, N., Purviance, Samuel A., Ross, Russell, ton, Struthers, Temple, Walker, WetherSmith, Henry W., Smith, Wm. H., Stanill, Jno. Price, Wherry, White, David N., White, J. W. F., Worrell and Meredith, President-54.

So the amendment was not agreed to. Bailey, (Huntingdon,) Bannan, BardsABSENT.-Messrs. Ainey, Andrews, ley, Bartholomew, Beebe, Biddle, Black, Charles A., Black, J. S., Bowman, Brodhead, Cassidy, Church, Clark, Corson, Craig, Cuyler, Elliott, Ellis, Funck, Green, Hazzard, Lamberton, Lear, LittleClean, M'Culloch,Mitchell, Palmer, G. W., ton, Long, M'Allister, M'Camant, M`Palmer, H. W., Patterson, D. W., Patton, Porter, Pughe, Purman, Reed, Andrew, Reynolds, James L., Sharpe, Simpson, Stewart, Turrell, Van Reed, Wetherill, J. M. and White, Harry—48.

Mr. WRIGHT. I move that the further consideration of this subject be postponed. The PRESIDENT. To what time? [Several Delegates. "Indefinitely."] Mr. WRIGHT. Well, indefinitely; or I

The motion to adjourn at one o'clock on will move to postpone for two weeks. Saturday was rejected.

Mr. WALKER. Mr. President: I now move to amend the resolution pending, by having the session commence at ten o'clock in the forenoon and terminate at four o'clock in the afternoon.

Mr. DALLAS. I move to amend the amendment, by striking out four o'clock and inserting three.

The PRESIDENT. It is moved that the resolution be postponed until this day two weeks.

The yeas and nays were required by Mr. Corbett and Mr. Edwards, and were as follow, viz:

YEAS.

Messrs. Achenbach, Broomall, Buckalew, Campbell, Carey, Carter, Curry, Cur

tin, Dallas, Davis, Dodd, Dunning, Ewing, Finney, Gibson, Gowen, Hanna, Harvey, Horton, Hunsicker, Kaine, Knight, Landis, Lilly, MacVeagh, M'Allister, Minor, Mott, Newlin, Patterson, T. H. B., Patton, Read, John R., Rooke, Ross, Runk, Smith, Henry W., Wetherill, Jno. Price, Woodward and Wright-39.

NAYS.

Messrs. Addicks, Armstrong, Baer, Baily, (Perry,) Baker, Barclay, Bigler, Boyd, Brown, Collins, Corbett, De France, Edwards, Fell, Fulton, Gilpin, Guthrie, Hay, Hemphill, Howard, Lawrence, MacConnell, M'Murray, Mann, Mantor, Metzger, Niles, Parsons, Purviance, John N., Purviance, Samuel A., Russell, Smith, Wm. H., Stanton, Struthers, Walker, White, David N., White, J. W. F. and Meredith, President-38.

PUBLICATION OF THE DEBATES.

Mr. BROOMALL. I offer the following resolution:

Resolved, That the Public Printer shall not cause to be published in the proceedings of the Convention anything purporting to have been said upon the floor by any member, without first exhibiting to him the proof-sheets of the matter proposed to be published.

The resolution was ordered to a second reading, and was read the second time.

Mr. BROOMALL. It is only necessary to say that if gentlemen have not read the published reports of the proceedings of the Convention enough to know that it is necessary to pass some such resolution as this, they ought to read them. Any gentleman who will devote five minutes to these Debates will see that we shall either have to

So the question was determined in the burn them when the business is done, or affirmative.

ABSENT.-Messrs. Ainey, Alricks, Andrews, Bailey, (Huntingdon,) Bannan, Bardsley. Bartholomew, Beebe, Biddle, Black, Charles A., Black, J. S., Bowman, Brodhead, Cassidy, Church, Clark, Cochran, Corson, Craig, Cronmiller, Cuyler, Darlington, Elliott, Ellis, Funck, Green, Hall, Hazzard, Heverin, Lamberton, Lear, Littleton, Long, M'Camant, M'Clean, M'Culloch, Mitchell, Palmer, G. W., Palmer, H. W., Patterson, D. W., Porter, Pughe, Purman, Reed, Andrew, Reynolds, Sharpe, Simpson, Smith, H. G., Stewart, Temple, Turrell, Van Reed, Wetherill, J. M., Wherry, White, Harry and Worrell-56.

AMENDMENT OF THE RULES.

take some means to protect ourselves against being hereafter charged with saying what we are reported as having said in this body. Hardly a page can be taken up but what ought to induce any member to require the Debates to be burned, or published more correctly than they now

are.

Mr. LAWRENCE. I agree that something ought to be done in this respect, but the resolution of my friend from Delaware reflects, I think, unintentionally probably, on the reporters. I have only to speak for myself and those around me; but when anything is said in the Convention, think the reporters are exceedingly careful to submit to every gentleman the copy of the remarks he has

Mr. NEWLIN. I offer the following as made, as they have taken them down, an amendment to the rules:

That rule be amended by providing: Resolved, That hereafter all motions to alter the time of holding the sessions of the Convention be decided without debate; and that the sessions continue as at present, unless altered by a vote of two-thirds.

[Several members. "No!" "No!"] Mr. NEWLIN. Let it lie over. The PRESIDENT. The resolution will lie over for one day under the rules.

LEAVES OF ABSENCE.

giving him time to correct them. I understand from the official Reporter thatthe printing is very imperfeet, and that when copy is sent to the Printer, perfectly plain and legible, it comes back here with palpable mistakes, involving members in the position just referred to by the gentleman from Delaware. I regret it exceedingly. It is not the fault of the Reporter, I am satisfied, but I think it is the fault of the Printer. I have thought it my duty to say this much in behalf of the reporters.

Mr. BROOMALL. I have made no re

Mr. MINOR. I ask leave of absence for flection on the reporters at all. I presume Mr. Beebe, on account of illness.

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the reporters have been careful in what they have done. All that I can say is that the result is as it is. It is the fault of somebody; and a reading of the proofsheets by the persons implicated in the assertions that are attributed to them would,

at least, make them their own injurers, if Printer and insist that he shall employ a they are injured

Mr. WOODWARD. I should like to ask the gentleman whether he was one of those who were in favor of reporting and publishing the Debates of this body?

Mr. BROOMALL. Indeed I was not. I was always opposed to the publication of the Debates, and every day since has satisfied me that I was right. I united with the gentleman from Philadelphia in trying to prevent the Debates from being published at all, partly because I knew it would prolong the session and partly because I was satisfied that we should be sadly misrepresented.

Mr. WOODWARD. I have no recollection in regard to the gentleman himself, but I do know that, against the efforts, most earnest efforts, made by some gentlemen in this body, there was a determination to take all the risks of reporting the Debates. 1 had some knowledge about that subject before, but gentlemen would have their speeches reported, and now they must take the responsibility.

While I am up I will make this remark: I believe the reporting of this Convention, as far as I have observed it, has been as well done as reporting is generally done in a legislative body, and a great deal better done than it was in the Convention of 1837. I think we have no more reason to complain than all deliberative bodies have. The truth is these troubles that afflict gentlemen are inherent in the very subject of reporting. We cannot have a hasty report of a deliberative body without these numerous mistakes; and I know they

exist.

Mr. BUCKALEW. Mr. President: I move to refer this resolution to the Committee on Printing, with the directions to communicate with the State Printer on the subject of the proof-reading of the Debates. What we need now is the employment by the State Printer of some competent person to read the proofssomebody that, when he sees a Latin quotation in the manuscript, will know how the wordsought to be spelled,and if he does not know, will inquire; and who, at all events, with a proper assistant, will carefully compare the proof with the manuscript. I take it for granted that the way the proof is now read is hap-hazard by somebody in the printing office, without any accurate comparison with the manuscript from which the composition is set up. I take it that if our Committee on Printing will communicate with the State

competent proof-reader, or that he shall pay the penalty by deducting from him some percentage of his compensation, there will be a correction.

Mr. BROOMALL. I have no objection to the reference if the committee will act promptly.

Mr. NEWLIN. Mr. President: I hope that the gentleman from Columbia will word his motion so as to make it imperative upon the committee to do this thing, because when matters are left to our discretion, usually they are not done.

Mr. BUCKALEW. I will use the word "directed," that the Committee on Printing be directed to communicate with the State Printer in order to secure the employment, by the Printer, of a competent proof-reader.

Mr. NEWLIN. I think the proposition in that shape will, perhaps, be effective. The PRESIDENT. What is the modification of the motion to refer?

Mr. NEWLIN. Instructions that the committee be directed to secure the em

ployment of a competent proof-reader by the State Printer.

The PRESIDENT. The motion is simply to refer to the committee?

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Mr. NEWLIN. I think the difficulty can be reached by the employment of a competent proof-reader. I do not know about these mistakes, for I confess that I never read the Debates; but I am told

there are such mistakes, and I have no doubt there are. A correction would probably be reached in the way suggested.

The PRESIDENT. The modification of the motion to refer is to refer to the com

mittee, with the instructions stated. Is that accepted?

Mr. BUCKALEW. Yes, sir; I accept it. Mr. COCHRAN. I do not want to debate this matter; but I wish to say that this complaint is just, and I want to note one mistake that caught my eye this morning. I made a remark in respect to the gentleman from Tioga (Mr. Niles) a day or two ago, stating that his criticism was hypercritical. The State Printer has made me say that it was hypocritical, [laughter,] a thing which I certainly did not intend to charge to the gentleman from Tioga.

The PRESIDENT. The question is on the motion to refer the resolution to the Committee on Printing, with instructions to

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